lmao. first you say you're tmac's biggest fan then you launch right into the exact bandwagoning/QQing this thread is mocking. this isn't aimed specifically to you but to all bandwagoners... cant you just give the dude a week? instead of jumping on the guy who carried this team to a historic 22 wins. unless you're working some subtle irony that goes over my head, this is exactly, dead center, bullseye, doppleganger for the type of bandwagoning people are talking about. "Tmac of the streak"??? you mean 2 games ago? you win 22 straight and the moment you drop a game or two and all of the sudden he's a schitzo different player/person and it's time to pile on. how about this, next time you feel like immediately thinking something negative about tmac as the automatic reaction to losing or riding bareback on his jock as the automatic reaction to winning, stop and think what you thought of tmac the last time we won instead of lost and vice versa. split the difference and that's probably how most non-bandwagoners rationally consider tmac's faults and strengths. that's yer problem right there. stop wishing for saviors, it's just another guy you're gonna fixate on then turn on the moment he doesn't do exactly what ppl want bottom line: bandwagoners are NOT real fans. they're stereotypically the kids who never played sports, who never actually went through the ups and downs of competition. they're just guys who want to latch onto winners as a 2 step program: Step 1: Team wins. be happy, wallow in the glory of it and feel invincible Step 2: Team loses. point fingers, cry, and wail and moan that all is lost. rinse, repeat until season is over. move on over to your baseball team. rinse repeat. move on over to your football team. rinse repeat you're back to tmac and the rockets
Winning a championship is not about ONE player either, it is also about TEAM. Do you mean your idol won a championship because of himself, but Tamc has 22 winning streak because of team?!
I think Tmac is more talented than any of them! Kobe's individual ability (score and defense) is better than Tmac and James! James is younger and stronger than Tmac and Kobe. In fact, they all need to prove themselves now. Tmac needs to pass the 1st round and finally get a ring someday. Kobe hasn't pass the 1st round either since Shaq left. James also need to wing a ring to prove why he is a chosen one (in fact, if he was in WC, he might also fight for passing the 1st round).
Offcourse winning championships is about the team, but you said Tmac > Hakeem and Clyde because they never had a 22 game win streak. All I'm saying is that they had 2 Championships...
ehh, pretend you're a GM and you're about to start up a new franchise and you can draft one superstar and 10 nobodies from the NBA. You're honestly telling me at this point in time you'd choose McGrady over the other two? Now I'm not saying for that we should trade for either one of the two, I think Mac is the right fit for us but.... I think if I were a GM I'd rather have a Kobe or Lebron or even DWade. But for now Mac works best.
I know. I didn't and you said "your two HOFers." I never mentioned anyone by name other than Dream and Clyde.
I never said that! I mean the rockets beat cavs and lakers twice this season! BTW, if you want to compare Tmac to Hakeem and Clyde now, it is unfair to Tmac! They both retired! Tmac still have many years left. If you want to compare them, please do it after Tmac is retired!
Problem is that Tmac's game is actually on the decline. Are you suggesting that Tmac's game will get better? A prime Tmac could not accomplish what either of those 2 players did (I am not even talking about championships, just winning a playoffs series), so I think we can safely say that Tmac needs a lot more help than any of those two players did. The thing is that it isn't even about talent. It's about the will to win and Tmac does not come even remotely close to either of those two in that regard. Both Tmac and Yao need to be surrounded with tough minded players.
Once again, it is unfair and acutally meaningless to discuss this now. After Tmac and Yao are retired, we can get a conclusion! None knows what will happen in future! We need to wait and see!
Ya these so called "fans" really irritate me...one game they are saying he should be MVP, next game they want him gone in the offseason...please people have some faith in the man we just rode his back for most of the winning streak, he has given everything out there
If its about WILL, Garnet would have several rings right now....Kobe would advance to the second round every year, Jordan would have had a ring with the Wizards. Most NBA players have the will...talent and team play are what really count.
If you are talking about wins and championships, then yes we need to wait and see. If you are talking abut the will to win then its not meaningless. I doubt anyone can say convincingly that Tmac's will to win games/mental toughness compares to either Hakeem or Clyde. It's better to accept Tmac's shortcomings and plug in the holes by quiring players which will mask his deficiencies instead of 'just waiting and see'.
Actually, 22 winning streak is about MENTALITY! He played 48 minutes twice! It is absolutely ridiculous to say Tmac doesn't have the will to win!
Tmac has not been out of first round in 7 tries. He has gone up in series multiple times... 2-0, 3-1 etc. He has come short in all of those situations. This tells me Tmac had enough to go up in the series multiple times but when the screws were tightened, he failed to deliver. Hakeem has taken his team all the way to championship as the only star on the 94 team. Hakeem's team was down 0-2 against Suns can came back to win the series. Hakeem and Clyde have taken a 6th seed team without home court in any of the series. They have beaten teams on the road in decisive game 5 and game 7 (Jazz and Suns) while being down in both games. I think its safe to say that Tmac has failed to show the mental toughness so far. That's why I am hoping Rockets surround him with players who have that edge. Scola is a step in the right direction.
Actullay, Tmac and the rockets just got 22 winning streak! I don't know how did you get that conclusion!
Tmac is nowhere near as mentally tough as Hakkem obviously Wrong. In a majority of these games, he has performed at a high level. Supporting cast has always been an issue. Keyword being team..... a damned good team too
I was more impressed with the streak because how well Tmac had blended in with his teammates during that streak. The team was red hot and Rafer, Luther, etc were making outside shots while Tmac was the facilitator. In fact, I can only think of a handful games at most where Tmac dominated the game. Tmac's will was tested in the Lakers, Celtics, and hornets game and he came up extremely short. He failed to deliver when a superstar was asked to. The Rockets won the games during the streak on total team effort, hustle, and defense on most part, more than Tmac's will to win. Comparing Tmac's performance/will during a regular season streak to Hakeem and Clyde's performance/will during legendary playoff runs when they absolutely dominated (Hakeem especially) is as absurd as it gets.
