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How ironic would it be if the Warriors got Raef LaFrentz for Marc Jackson??

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Swopa, Jan 29, 2002.

  1. Swopa

    Swopa Member

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    Don't blame me, it's Ric Bucher's suggestion:

    Denver, Phoenix and Golden State have discussed a three-way deal moving former Nugget Rodney Rogers back to Denver, Marc Jackson to the Suns and Raef LaFrentz to the Warriors. The decision facing Nuggets GM Kiki Vandeweghe is to move LaFrentz to clear cap space (Rogers' deal is up at the end of the season) or acquire cornerstone talent. Don't look for a decision until after the All-Star weekend, at the earliest.

    Since Raef lust has been a primary topic in this forum for a long time, I just thought I'd mention it here. :D :p :D
     
  2. Band Geek Mobster

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    That would be funny!
     
  3. JayZ750

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    What do the Nuggets people on the board think about this.

    Wouldnt you rather have Kenny Thomas than Rodney Rodgers...

    Rodney Rodgers
    13 ppg, 4.8 rpg

    KT
    14 ppg, 6.7 rpg

    C'mon....pretty please :D
     
  4. Swopa

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    I'm guessing the main lure wouldn't be Jackson or Rogers ... to make this deal go down, the Warriors would probably have to toss in their lottery pick for this year.

    Could the Rockets trade their pick for this year even if they wanted to, given the Grizzlies obligation?
     
  5. JayZ750

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    Now that would be too enticing to pass up if I was Kiki. What do you think about it from a Warriors standpoint. I just dont see La Frentz taking Golden State significantly further. Not that a draft pick would either, though.
     
  6. carlit0

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    Rogers is much better than KT.

    He does all kind of things on the court. (Ft% 3pt% are better also.)

    He was 6th man of the year last year..... I think.

    Rogers is like 60th ranked in this league while Kenny is like 80th.

    If i was the Rockets, I could swap Rogers for KT I do in a second.

    Phoenix got a hand up on us right now with this offering.
     
  7. Stickfigure

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    For the Warriors, Raef would really only be valuable as a center. They have Fortson, Murphy (who's shown considerable promise), and possibly Jamison all capable of playing the 4. But I would put LaFrentz ahead of Dampier and Foyle at the 5.
     
  8. bigboymumu

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    You are kidding right. You want to trade two players that are very similar. One is considerably younger and CHEAPER and yet you think we should jump at the opportunity.
     
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  9. Swopa

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    JayZ750: Tough call, IMO. I'd sure like to know where that draft pick was in the lottery, and who was available at that pick, before making the decision. Raef is clearly good, but also clearly not an All-Star ... and you wouldn't want to see your team lose a chance at drafting an All-Star.

    As you said, the GS lottery pick would be a hard deal for Kiki to pass up. The Suns' pick and Rogers straight up (that is, leaving GS out of the trade) would be a more difficult decision.


    Stickfigure: Playing Raef at center is a big part of what's kept Denver down despite McDyess and Van Exel. If the Warriors got him for their pick and M. Jackson, I'd look for Fortson to be moved (as well as perhaps Foyle or Murphy). Dampier's the only decent defender on the entire team at this point, so don't look for him to be dealt anywhere.
     
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    Lafrentz would not fit as well in Golden State. In my opinion, the Rockets would be the perfect team for him. Like Barkley said at one of the halftime shows. To be a great player, a player must be able to do multiple things right. He is very good at blocking shots, he clogs up the lane, and has a very good outside shot for a big man. But he is missing alot of the intangibles along with numerous other things.(i.e. rebounding, tenacity...) I would like to see how Cato does for the remaining portion of the season. I can't believe what I am about to write but Cato is starting to come around. Cato might be deserving of his paycheck very soon.
     
  11. Nuggets4

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    Swopa, I heard a deal that would send Raef to Golden State, but we would get Marc Jackson. Kiki likes Jackson's game.

    As for Rogers, I think I'd take a mild enema before I welcomed his overrated @ss back to Denver.
     
  12. Ottomaton

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    I'd think Murphy would be a better fit for the Warriors if they got Raef. Right now, he's pretty much the only bigman (that plays for the Warriors) that has an inside-outside game. I'd imagine that he'd thrive pretty well in any sort of scheme set up with Raef in mind.

    I haven't watched the Warriors much this year, but I'd imagine that you could go with Dampier/Foyle/(or even Fortson) @ the
    'big inside bruser' position, with a Raef/Murphy combo at the 'pick-and-roll-running/outside-jumper-shooting big guy' position.
     
  13. Ottomaton

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    I actualy think he'd fit real well on GS, considering their eternal need for shooters. By using him to spread the floor, you'd make Jamison much more effective on the midrange postups.

    I look at Lafrenz in much the same way as I did Horry when he was in Houston. Offensively. a solid complimentary outside shooter who can thrive if he's not trying to be a big playmaker and lets the game come to him, while at the same time being a big plus with the shot blocking, rebounding, and (if he moved to the 4) a solid defensive presence.

    In otherwords a big plus on the defensive end that won't ever hurt you on offense and may even help quite a bit.
     
  14. NugzFan

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    yall do have to realize the nuggets will NOT trade raef for rogers. i challenge ANYONE to justifty it. frankly, its impossible.

    however, if we get GS's pick, well....now thats a deal i would love. the nuggets are not that lucky.
     
  15. Sherlock

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    Well, if I read the quote correctly, they wouldn't be bringing in Rodgers for his ability, but for the caproom resulting from his expiring contact, and I'm sure that Denver would have to get a pick in the deal.

    So, if that's the angle, if I were the Rockets, I think I'd trade Wiz (whose contract expires this summer, just as Rodgers) for their caproom, and our #1 pick this summer, which is currently higher (#5) than Golden State's (#7).

    And yes, we CAN trade that pick or Toronto's #1 this year. We don't have to give Memphis a pick until next year, when it will have to either be our pick, or one that is within 2 of our pick.

    I know that is expensive, but I don't think we have time to draft a rookie center, and then wait for him to develop. We need to get a center that already has come into his own around Stevie's age, and he doesn't have to be a superstar, when we already have two who are developing in Francis and Griffin.

    Of course, I'd rather have Rashard Lewis or even Lamar Odom, then utilize Griffin at the 5, but I doubt Seattle will be stupid enough to let Lewis go, and LAC would probably wait until the summer on Odom, and find their best deal, maybe for a bunch of Orlando's draft choices. In order to get Lewis, we'd have to find someone to trade Cato and Moochie for an expiring contract, so we can get under the cap and straight out sign Lewis, because I seriously can't imagine Seattle doing a sign and trade with their competitor.

    I'm sure CD is working the phones, as we speak...
     
  16. NugzFan

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    problem - raefs contract also expires this summer.


    we aint be trading no raef for no rogers anytime soon. :D
     
  17. Baqui99

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    I would give up Mobley and my left nut to bring a guy like Raef LaFrentz here.
     
  18. Miggidy Markell

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    OMG!! Your kidding right? The only player I would give up for Eddie would be KG!!
     
  19. bigboymumu

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    Dude, you need help.
     

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