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Irish Laugh at Hillary's Political Experience

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  1. thumbs

    thumbs Member

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    IMO this was very telling:

    http://groups.google.com/group/Poli...ad/c1cc977784f7e4a2/57bc2ced493edcf4?lnk=raot



    Irish Laugh at Hillary

    [Q] - Hillary Clinton had no direct role in bringing peace to Northern
    Ireland and is a "wee bit silly" for exaggerating the part she played,
    according to Lord Trimble of Lisnagarvey, the Nobel Peace Prize winner
    and former First Minister of the province.

    "I don't know there was much she did apart from accompanying Bill
    [Clinton] going around," he said. Her recent statements about being
    deeply involved were merely "the sort of thing people put in their
    canvassing leaflets" during elections. "She visited when things were
    happening, saw what was going on, she can certainly say it was part of
    her experience. I don't want to rain on the thing for her but being a
    cheerleader for something is slightly different from being a principal
    player."

    Mrs Clinton has made Northern Ireland key to her claims of having
    extensive foreign policy experience, which helped her defeat Barack
    Obama in Ohio and Texas on Tuesday after she presented herself as
    being ready to tackle foreign policy crises at 3am.

    "I helped to bring peace to Northern Ireland," she told CNN on
    Wednesday. But negotiators from the parties that helped broker the
    Good Friday Agreement in 1998 told The Daily Telegraph that her role
    was peripheral and that she played no part in the gruelling political
    talks over the years. - http://jammiewearingfool.blogspot.com/2008/03/irish-laugh-at-hillary....
     
  2. tigermission1

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    "We're all Witnesses"...that's Hillary's 'experience' ;)
     
  3. rocketsjudoka

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    As opposed to Obama's experience brokering peace talks involving who would be allowed to march in Chicago's St. Pats parade. ;)
     
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    http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jhs4kpT93PaBEKZfLbleWsE8kBrgD8V9BH28L

    You can find support for both sides.
     
  5. SamFisher

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    thread title does not match.
     
  6. Invisible Fan

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    "It takes a village"...idiot to believe in some of the whoppers she's spreading around.
     
  7. Cohen

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    All Mitchell seems to say is that she was one of many that got the women involved.

    I was surprised that any would speak at all against her, since I thought so many gave Bill a lot of credit and thus wouldn't want to harm her. But I suppose they don't appreciate folks taking undue credit when it was a lot of agony to hammer out that peace agreement.


    I am consistently amazed at the blatant mnner in which the Clintons lie.
     
  8. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    If this is her experience I'd rather have sheryl crow



    The Macedonian government opened its border to refugees the day before Clinton arrived to meet with government leaders. And her mission to Bosnia was a one-day visit in which she was accompanied by performers Sheryl Crow and Sinbad, as well as her daughter, Chelsea, according to the commanding general who hosted her.
     
  9. MadMax

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    That's kind of the point. One of them is pretending to have experience...while the other is not. If she weren't touting her vast experience and how we should all feel safe with her at the wheel...but not safe with her opponent at the wheel...this wouldn't be an issue.

    And I would love the experience of marching in Chicago's St. Pat's parade! :)
     
  10. rhino17

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    I was in Ireland this summer and everyone LOVED Hlary
     
  11. MadMax

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    too bad there aren't any delegates for her in County Cork.
     
  12. mc mark

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    Max! Is your family from Cork?

    mine too!

    I'll be damned!
     
  13. MadMax

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    actually, my family name is most prevalent in Clare. i know they came through Philly...were immediately enlisted in the Union Army during the Civil War... and then went to Tyler, Texas. my grandfather's grandfather settled there, writing letters about how the land was as fertile as it was back home.

    Cork's just the first one that came to mind when i was being a smartass. ;)

    SLAINTE!
     
  14. mc mark

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    Funny, mine had a similar experience.

    Came into the carolinas. Some joined the union, some the confederancy. Those that fought for the south ended up in southern Alabama. Those from the north ended up in Kansas.
     
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    via TPM --

    a new memo out from Obama foreign policy adviser Greg Craig that goes after Hillary's claim to foreign policy seasoning with a sledgehammer:


    You can read the full memo here

    http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/03/obama_camp_no_support_for_clai.php#more

    It's pretty harsh
     
  16. MadMax

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    5 million Irish immigrants from Ireland to America from around 1500 to 1900. Just amazing.
     
  17. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I really wished obama would have addressed this before last tuesday, its an issue that should have been addressed a long time of ago (her claiming first lady experience, ridiculous) but in the end, I don't think it would have made a difference in TX or OH. In OH the issue is jobs, and he did very well in TX given where the polls started after super tues.
     
  18. rocketsjudoka

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    I agree Clinton is way over playing her involvement, wow a candidate that exagerates who woulda thunk it. That said while she might not have been instrumental no one is denying she was involved and didn't contribute in at least a small way. That is still far greater experience than Obama who wasn't even there.
     
  19. rocketsjudoka

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    Except that the Obama campaign has also criticized the role she played as a senior advisor on health care and other matters in during the Bill Clinton Presidency. So either she did play an important role in the presidency or didn't. Obama made an important that Hillary Clinton shouldn't be allowed to cherry pick the good and bad of the Clinton Admin. in the same vein then the Obama campaign shouldn't be cherry picking either.
     
  20. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    dude, you can spin this all you want, she got called out for her lack of experience, not by obama, but by the people she claimed to help. that's bad

    by the way, she failed on healthcare
     

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