besides the "McLady" references, do you not agree that this is an accurate take on the trend of bashing Rocket greats? The Hakeem thing disturbed me. He IS THE HOUSTON ROCKETs. Les should have paid him the $$$$, the same way Jerry Krause paid Jordan like $40 million in his last season...(remember back in the day Jordan was severely underpaid by the Bulls) Also Rudy T going the Lakers. People again we 'angry' that Rudy was saying such nice things about their organization. Do you blame him? he got a huge contract Also in the other 'sam casell slander' thread. someone called MARIO ELIE a TRAITOR for being an assistant coach to the Mavs. 1. Mario was interviewing to be an assistant coach or head coach (sorry i think its probably his career interest not be on Houston Sports TV) and the Rockets didn't hire him. I'm sure he would love to be on Adelman's staff. But he wants to coach. Mario Elie? Traitor? No.
Why does bashing former Rockets have to lead to bashing current Rockets? Mario was a traitor for quitting on the Rockets after hearing his name in trade discussions. The second McGrady isn't a Rocket anymore and laces it up for another team, he's fair game.
i know you know that, but the newbs think he's a traitor cause he took another job instead of being a TV side kick in houston.
It was a joke. You have been way too uptight recently Mr. Tinman. Nobody is trying to burst your bubble. Calling Sam Cassell a Rocket great is a bit of a stretch however. He played 15 minutes a game for 2 seasons, less than what Luther Head has contributed. The difference is that Sam Cassell hit a couple of huge shots in the playoffs wide open from Dream passes
Who cares? That shouldn't lead to bashing the current players. Let me clarify my stance. 1. You can criticize current players as long as it's valid. What you see on this board is, at least IMO, a lot of so-called Rockets fans who want these players to fail. That is unacceptable. 2. If the Rockets are on a historical winning streak, I don't care if Rudy T or Hakeem Olajuwon themselves talked trash about this team, I'm going to defend them. Especially if the reason they are criticizing them are not based in reality. 3. If you're going to call our current best healthy player McLady, then **** you. Go root for another team and call the mid-90s Rockets your favorite teams ever. Just don't call yourself a Rockets fan.
I don't care for your so called differences. Don't be mad at McGrady for not making a miracle out of garbage like Ryan Bowen, Rod Styrickland and a control freak coach who was better served as an assistant. If anything you're overrating the guy by expecting such. Once you learn this is a team game your blood pressure will go down a notch. In the meantime, the name calling is very high schoolish.
You are paranoid. I was the only one that jokingly said that Mario is a traitor. It was meant for no other purpose other than humor. I haven't seen anybody badmouth a past Rocket if they don't deserve it.
sorry, i didn't see that as joke. put one of these : what do you think of that Sam Cassell interview then? When Sam told John Thompson that "Hakeem..you pass him the ball, and he scores" do you translate that Hakeem being a ball hog? or do you translate that Hakeem being a great scorer?
Timeout McGradySNKT, forgot the McGrady disdain by AntiSonic. The point of his analysis is people are quick to turn on a player's accomplishments and are looking for any thing to slander him. here's one. If Yao in 20 years has an interview and he says "Houston is too hot". does that mean he's slandering the city of Houston? is it the same thing as when John Starks called Houston "HELL"??
I think Antisonic is spot-on, but the McLady stuff brings it down a notch. I could have cared less about McGrady before he played for Houston, and if he wears another uniform later in his career, I'll have nothing more than a passing interest in how/what he does. However, as long as he is a Rocket, I'll support him and guys like Yao, etc.
Are you serious? You don't think McGrady brought it every night during the playoffs ("When all the marbles are on the line). Without T-Mac, the Dallas series could have been a sweep. We had Ryan Bowen as a starting PF. Same with Utah; he brought it every night. Utah was a great team, and Yao had a horrible seres. When Yao was out last year, he held it together and made sure when Yao was back, we would be in the play-offs. You're being hypocritical; You make "McLady" sound like he is on the same level as "Quitten". True Rockets' fans don't insult past Rockets, nor do they insult current Rockets. Unless they are not a real Rocket, e.g. Quitten; and T-Mac is not near Quitten.
When Hakeem came back in that crap Toronto uniform, the Houston crowd gaving him a standing O. When Jordan came back to Chicago in that Wizards uniform, he got a standing O. when Larry Bird showed up in Boston as the coach of the Pacers, they gave him a standing O. If We trade Tmac, I'll giving him a standing O when he comes back here. Just like Sam Cassell, he never said anything bad about the city of Houston unlike what other people think.
So, that means that the Germans fouhgt the Russians to win the war, after we were defeated? MacBeth is actually pretty concise - it's only slightly more than half as long as Hamlet, for example. Aside from the metaphorizing, though, I generally agree with the post.
To be fair to the media and fans from other cities, if the fakers won 12 in a row and then Kobe is out for the season, would you as a fan of another team think they have a chance for the championship? I have to admit that when the Yao news hit, there was a lot of cussing. Considering how important Yao was to our team, I fully expected the streak to end. We've all seen those dry spells the last few years from rafer and battier and most of all tmac (dude does shoot the most). That's where Yao comes in a nice baseline jumper to stop the bleeding. But damn I'm glad they're proving me wrong. Incredible shooting and blowing teams out every game. This team has proved to me after Yao that we can still do it and the media will come around. Hey, can't be pretenders if we win 38 in a row to finish the season.
I didn't call him that, he was chosen by the ROCKETS and the FANS. http://www.nba.com/rockets/history/30yr_team.html Rockets Introduce 30-Year Team Fans select squad to commemorate 30th anniversary HOUSTON, APR. 20 -- During halftime of their game vs. the Phoenix Suns on April 19, the Houston Rockets introduced the Rockets 30-Year Team, commemorating the 30th anniversary of the franchise. Charles Barkley, Sam Cassell, Clyde Drexler, Mario Elie, Elvin Hayes, Moses Malone, Calvin Murphy, Hakeem Olajuwon, Ralph Sampson and Rudy Tomjanovich were chosen by fan balloting to comprise this honorary roster celebrating the history of the franchise. Chosen with the 24th selection of the 1993 NBA Draft, Sam Cassell (1993-1996) made major contributions to the Rockets back-to-back NBA Championship teams of 1994 and 1995. Cassell ranks among the franchise leaders in nine playoff categories and will be remembered by fans for hitting the game-winning shot in Game 3 of the 1994 NBA Finals. He was "SWEET" and "CRAZY"
My favorite part. That era was probably a measuring stick for the truest Rocket fans. Anybody can be a fan of a good team, but it takes a real fan to stick with the team through the dark years. Steve and Cuttino played their asses off every game for us. Yeah we didn't have tons of success but look at the rosters and tell me what they should have done. I also find it funny that Stevie took that team as far as the present day Rockets have done. For a guy that isn't even from Texas, his love for the city of Houston goes unmatched. Other teams offered more money and less competition at the guard spot. Still, Stevie took less money to come back home and finish off his career with his good friend Yao. You got to remember, we only made the playoffs once during his tenure and we immediately traded him after that which he was heart broken. Most guys would shun at the thought of coming back to a team where they had little team success and on top of that, the team traded them. Nope, but not Steve. I remember people calling Steve a headcase and that he would ruin the team chemistry. They said he was going to pout and pout about playing time and demand a trade. Wrong again.
You know a reason for those "dark years" was Scottie Pippen demanding a trade from the Rockets. Bulls "top 50 player of all time" Pippen was brought to bring veteran leadership to the team, but instead demanded a trade and we got back Kato, Walt Williams. Who knows if Pippen didn't demand a trade and helped mentor Steve, he would have earned respect by so many Rocket fans. just a historical side note
It is all those failures that make the successes that much sweeter....let's hope one day we are calling Tmac a Rocket's legend. DD
might have been a decent post w/o the "McLady what has he done?" reference. as is, he just ends up doing the same thing he accuses other posters of doing ...
Oh, really? You call being swept by Seattle in 1996 "going down with guns blazing?" You're going to honestly sit there and tell me Robert Horry, Robert Horry, brought it every night? What a joke. And I say this being as much of a die-hard Rockets fan as anyone on this board, including Mr. Wizard of Oz. You don't disrespect Tracy McGrady for the same reason you don't disrespect Larry Smith. They both have one key factor in common- die-hard Rockets fans will know exactly the connection. They're both part of Rockets history/lore in a similar manner.
