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Who thinks this team is better w/out Yao?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Desert_Rocket, Mar 3, 2008.

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  1. poprocks

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    No, you said the Rockets couldn't beat the elite teams. This despite a 17 game win streak. 2-1 against the Spurs. Beat the Suns, beat the Hornets, beat the Mavs, beat the Cavs, beat the Warriors. Sorry consider yourself owned.
     
  2. Nice Rollin

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    you're right.

    I wish clutch would just lock this up. These dumbasses will see what happens in the playoffs when Carl Ladry and Luis Scola force double teams, put players in foul trouble, change shots, and shoot over the top of their defender with ease....
     
  3. steddinotayto

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    Do you even watch any games with those players?

    Howard: He turns the ball over just as much as Yao does. To make matters worse, if he can't get open for an alley or free himself for a dunk, he's pretty much rendered useless on the offensive end. And foul shooting? If he was hitting at a 70% clip I'd call that respectable for a center but, no, he doesn't do that either. His effectiveness is the same effectiveness that Landry shows--explosiveness around the basket. But the big difference is that Landry is capable of hitting 15 footers and can actually make free throws.

    Amare: He's the whole reason why they traded for Shaq. In other words, O'Neal is there to cover up for Stoudemire's sorry ass. For a PF that claims to be the best, he hasn't even put together a single 20/10 season in his career. Even Antawn Jamison has time to pull down 10 boards after he finishes chucking for 3pt land. And how does he further hurts his team? You can't sit Nash for long while Stoudemire's out on the floor, otherwise, Stoudemire's game shrinks significantly.

    Gasol: He's a better post player that Howard or Amare. He has pretty good range for his height and is a good FT shooter. Gasol pairing up with Kobe added about 4-5 more seasons to his career. As for fitting in with Adelman's "philosophy" (i'm assuming your going towards how earlier in the season he wanted Yao at the elbow instead of down low), Gasol's passing skills is far inferior than Yao's and it would be the same thing with Yao--Gasol's effectiveness as a scorer is around the basket rather than 18 ft out.
     
  4. Nice Rollin

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    Thank you. I was gonna reply to that tomorrow
    The point i was making was with Yao out, we desperately need a big man. We could use any of those guys....Bottom line we need a big, and we have Yao. We're better with Yao and McGrady in the lineup together. Not McGrady and Dikemebe Mutombo.
     
  5. Nice Rollin

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    Come to think of it, the 72-10 bulls team was better without Rodman. All he could do was board and defend....other than that he couldnt do crap on the offensive end. He was a liability. They wouldve went 82-0 without him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rolleyes:
     
  6. Blurr#7

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    This thread is so pointless, I've never heard of a team getting better by losing talent.
     
  7. steddinotayto

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    Now, now, you just left people on here an opening to attack you since Jordan didn't have a dominant big man on his team which would further their belief that they're right into believing we no longer need Yao.
     
  8. ChrisBosh

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    DING DING DING!!! We have a winner!


    rofflesaurus it took some time for Adelman to figure out his rotation and the players to understand their roles and the system…….. this plays a big part on how well a team will play. It just happened to be that once T-Mac went down that he figured it out and the team also started getting his system and the players just jelled, once T-Mac came back he adjusted his game to fit into the system. We are still a good team without Yao but not great, you’ll get this once we play the better teams.
     
  9. Cowboy_Bebop

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    No one on the Rockets right now I can think of can cancel out Pau or Duncan. Yao is the only guy who might be able to do that with his present in the pain and with help. THis makes Spurs and Lakers the most dangerous team the Rockets going to fear if they are to play against without Yao. Spurs is a defensive giant while the Lakers are a offensive giant. I don't know if we can match their buckets for buckets. We will have to play a flawless team game if we are to beat them.
     
  10. Nice Rollin

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    ummmmmm Jordan is the greatest player of all time. Are you kidding? Is that how people will come after me? With Jordan? You cant go after anyone with Jordan.


    And the point is WE NEED A BIG MAN. Yao is one of the best big men in the game right now. At least top 3. If not the best in some people's eyes....
     
  11. rofflesaurus

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    The only quality wins we've had was against the Hornets. The Phoenix one was impressive but that was with Francis playing way over his head. The Cavs arent good, and I guess beating the Warriors is impressive since they've had our number (mainly because they run Yao off the floor). The point is I don't think we're much worse without Yao. In fact, I think we're a bit better and more efficient.
     
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    Of course they can and they did. I think it was page 14.
     
  13. bronx43

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    Clutch should lock this r****ded conversation. Obviously, no one (except a few resident haters on this board) including JVG, who knows more about the Rockets and basketball than any of us, agrees with the baseless claim that we are better without Yao. What I don't understand is how a 12-game winning streak with Yao doesn't prove we're a better team with him, but a 5-game winning streak after his injury proves that we're a better team without him.
     
  14. Nice Rollin

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    Well thats just stupid.


    My point is that WE NEED A BIG MAN. Yao is one of the best big men in the game right now. At least top 3. If not the best in some people's eyes....If it's not Yao, give me Amare or Howard....although Yao is better than Dwight right now. 29 other team will take Yao any day of the week.
     
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    Based on what this season? And no, your weak analysis of basketball doesn't count.
     
  17. steddinotayto

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    No I agree with you (you're aiming the gunfire at the wrong person here :D ). I'm just saying they'll resort back to Jordan as their best and only proof of evidence that you don't need a big man to win it all.
     
  18. Nice Rollin

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    ya, that was the dumbest post ive seen in years

    Duncan-inside presnese.....who cares if he's not listed as a center. you gotta double down

    kemp-inside presense...you gotta double down

    rasheed wallace-inside presense....you still had to double down on rasheed...

    this is just a ridiculous argument....you cant be a permimeter jumpshooting team. im done

    as much as i love landry and scola....if im the other team, i let them go one on one.
     
  19. Nice Rollin

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    i know. i was just making a point. You dont win w/o a big...whether it's Yao or not....We're not better without Yao. Just like we wouldnt be better without Amare, Howard, Kaman, Bogut, Bynum or Gasol....except Yao is better than most of those guys i just named.
     
  20. rucer

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    When Tmac was out, TRADE HIM, WE WIN WITHOUT HIM,
    When yao was out, TRADE HIM, WE WIN WITHOUT HIM

    come on, baby, grow up
     
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