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  1. longbow111

    longbow111 Member

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    It looks familar to me.

    "Yao is a 7'6" stiff and will make Shawn Bradley looks like Bill Russell"
    "Luis Scola is a late second round rookie Spurs drafted five years ago but still can't make the team, so he is supposed to be bad"

    Don't jump on conclusion before you actually know something about what you are talking about.
     
  2. freemaniam

    freemaniam 我是自由人

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    Unless you deny clinical medicine is objective and unbiased observation.

    Bear in mind that it is a system which has been examining, refining and implemented for thousands of years already. The publications that still being practised nowadays were written hundreds of years ago.

    No doubt there are areas that Western Medicine are way better that Traditional Chinese Medicine, but to claim Traditinoal Chinese Medicine not scientific is ignorant, no offence. :)
     
  3. tonyrock

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    when i was young ,i got one finger broken , the doctor told me :you may need to have a operation and have your finger cut!! I was totaly shocked!I was just 13 years old.luckily my dad found a old Chinese medicine doctor. I used his medicine ,And finally I saved my finger
     
  4. ColdspringX

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    relax, taking a pound of herbs everyday is not going to be risky, at worst it'd provide vitamins...
     
  5. ccjj

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    Have you heard of accupunture?
     
  6. yuantian

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    you need to study history a bit more. it's never passed on by word of mouth. in fact, many books have covered chinese medicine extensively for thousands of years. i believe some books goes over 2000 years. and it's not just saying what they think works, a lot of it covers the actualy effect of each herb or practice. look at it this way, the chinese civilization is probably the biggest observational study that's been done ever. granted, it's not randomized or blinded, but still, in a way, it is a study.

    further, it may not be science in western sense. but, it is very scientific in chinese sense. traditional chinese medicine follows anceint chinese cosmology. basically, it follows the ying and the yang and the 5 elements (metal, wood, water, fire, earth). for example, if you have a cold, then you would look for herbs that have fire property in them to cure your cold.

    that's just some very basics of chinese medicine, or for chinese culture for that matter.
     
  7. Panda

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    Yao is smart.
     
  8. Precision340

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    ahhh.. just put some tiger balm on the wound and it should heal within weeks... ;)
     
  9. Panda

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    One thing about TCM, sometimes what patients feel, is vital information for diagnosis and prescriptions. For example, in some cases, a good TCM doctor will care very much if you generally feel thirsty or not, and furthermore, if you are thirsty, do you prefer drinking hot water to cold water. If you want to drink hot water, it usually means your body's CORE has not enough Yin inside. The catch is, when a patient wants to drink hot water despite it's a very hot day, something must be wrong because we usually like cold drinks in hot days. When this happens, the TCM doctors will know the core of your body is suffering from either a lack of Yang, or sufficent Yang but an overabundance of Yin. He then finds out which is true by other clues. So he can take steps in arranging proper herbal prescription for patients. As TCM theories dictates, the human body as whole, as well as its sub parts, must be in a balance of Yin and Yang. That's the starting point of everything, and other theories are added under this grand framework.

    TCM uses the patient's body as a self speaking instrument to reveal the inner state of said body by the feelings of itself, of course, that's not the only way. Such practices are in Western medicine as well, like that on the subject of skin diseases, a patient feeling itchy or painful or not is an indication. The point is, can modern science explain if such practice is "scientific" or "not scientific"? I mean, a patient's feelings cannot be quantitatively studied yet, we can't stick a barometer into a patient and tell if he wants to drink hot or cold water. Also, modern science doesn't know what such preferences mean in regard to health yet. It's too early to use science to judge things it has yet to know, which is true in case of TCM IMO.
     
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    My sister had cancer and was given a 60 percent chance to live. She had radiation and chemo. The chinese doctor told her that her vital signs were very weak according to her measurements and put her on some cancer fighting TCM concoction. Well her cancer is 100 percent gone and she's back to normal and completely healthy. Doctor said it was her low vital life force that was so low that was causing her swift decline and that Traditional Chinese Medicine helped her regain her strength to fight off the cancer.
     
  11. Juggernaut

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    chinese meds are awesome!!!
     
  12. danny317

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    ???

    from my understanding chemo drugs are designed to harm the human body so that it forces aggressive cancerous cells to die off. same w/ radiation... so if your sister had chemo then obviously she would be weak...

    the chinese concoction may have helped... or maybe the radiation/chemo did its job and killed the cancer cells...

    i dont know if it was the chinese medicine that helped her regain her strength. but w/o the chinese concoction, the body would have probably recovered from the chemo/radiation treatments on its own...

    im not bashing herbal medicine. in fact all our knowledge of modern pharmacy can be traced back to herbal medicine. however, the fact that there are not many studies on these concoctions is a concern. basing a diagnosis on yin/yang, fire, water, wood, metal, earth... sounds hokey...

    discover the active ingredients, the receptors the drug works on, the mode of delivery...
     
  13. Carl Herrera

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    Steve Francis is turning to traditional Chinese medicine, too, during his rehab.

    Sorry, may bad, Steve Francis is turnng to traditional Chinese buffets during his rehab.
     
  14. pirc1

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    LOL :D
     
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    that general tso's chicken will help balance his disproportionately sized gut by adding saddle bags on his back. ;)
     
  16. seaweed

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    If that helps, the response here and in Houston and even in China would be interesting. So I'm waiting for the result. But before that, anyone here knows how long it'll take Yao to recover if he stick to mordern western medical science? Without knowing that, we can't tell whether the Chinese herbs work, right?
     
  17. Avicenna76

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    Maybe all our players should go and get some physical training in Shaolin temple... If the monks can help us, we can probably rewind the biological clock on Grandpa Mutombo, make Yao jump 40", teach Battier better kung fu "defensive" moves (much better than Bruce "Lee" Bowen's), get Rafer to move around on defense faster than Jet Li...
     
  18. YallMean

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    Well, your knowledge about chinese medicine is partially true, probably up until this century. Now, there are med school for chinese medicine in china, Korea. In Korea, chinese medicine is more trusted than western medicine in many areas. Here in Us, UC san dieago has a easter mdeicine study center to study various effects of chinese medicine.

    chinese medicine works. it just never been studied using western system. I would use Chinese medicine to cure flu, cold, skin problems beofore using western medicine. It's not witch medicine. That stuff has been working fpr thousands of years.
     
  19. pirc1

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    What was penicillin before it became medicine? It was just a blob of goo, now it is one of the most effective medcine in human history. Just because most people in US doesn't understand it does not mean it is witch craft.
     
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    Western medicine is at best with their surgical operations, but as far as pathology goes, chinese/eastern medicine has a much longer history with amazing track records and they can not be simply overlooked.
     

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