Do you think the Rockets would have won both of them championships if MJ never left?

The guy was not in physical good shape.He ebven said that when they loss that he would get back into shape the next season.

 

Then why was he better in the 95 playoffs then he was in 2 out of the 3 championships after 1995?

 

I think the NBA should cease to exist until Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker each turn 40. After all, the Spurs have the same team that won the championship last year -- what's the point of even playing? Clearly, it's automatic that because something happens one year, it will happen every subsequent year for the remainder of time. Outstanding logic, Jerry... hats off to you.

 

OMG i already explained this.He played more gms in those series.He only played like 10 gms in 95 while he went to the finals ythe rest of the time.

 

You clearly don't understand. In those 10 games, MJ played like vintage MJ and the Bulls STILL LOST.

 

No Vintage MJ is better then that.If he didn't retire he would be better.If u think someone can take a year and half and play 17 gms and still be top form is crazy.

 

If vintage MJ is better than that, why don't the numbers show it?

 

I think there are some factors not being realized here. First, is that Michael Jordan had nothing left in the tank when he first retired. He was exhausted emotionally with the game (as he exerted more emotions then any player ever), and he needed to regain his passion. He knew he was gonna lose, and that is why he retired, so either way the Rox would have one that first championship with or without him. The Knicks were primed to beat the Bulls that year, and Jordan knew he needed a certain level of intensity that he just did not have to give.

Now, after the Rockets won that first championship it grew a confidence factor inside them that would carry on through the next year. With the trade for Drexler, and the heart of the team I think it was no doubt.

Remember, Jordan was back that next year albeit in lesser form, but he was. The Rox went on to sweep the team that defeated him. I think it is rather clear about that year as well. You think the Bulls would have acquired better talent for a Jordan-less team, so that when he came back it would be a bigger force. That was not the case.

You add the factors that this Rockets team played the Bulls very cometitively, and won the season series with them in thier first threepeat years.

Final Answer:

ROX WIN BOTH YEARS!!!!!!!

 

sorry, but the numbers don't bear that contention out. he shot for a higher percentage and averaged more per game. last time i looked, he was better in all the defensive categories as well.

Actually...the point is that no one player is good enough to win all by his lonesome. You need help, no matter what your name is. Not having a PF was a HUGE matchup problem for the Bulls with regard to the Magic.

 

92-93 Playoff Stats - 35.1ppg, 6.7rebs, 6ast, .475fg%

94-95 Playoff Stats - 31.5ppg, 5.5rebs, 4.5ast, .484fg%

I don't know where you got your stats from, but aside from the small fg% increase, all his numbers were down. If you want to take it further, here's his numbers in the 17 regular season games:

92-93 Regular Season Stats - 32.6ppg, 6.7rebs, 5.5ast, 2.8stl, .495FG%

94-95 Regular Season Stats (17GMS) - 26.9ppg, 6.9rebs, 5.3ast, 1.8stl, .411FG%

MJ said himself that he was not in shape and vowed to the Bulls he would be ready and in shape for next season. They acquire Rodman and three titles later, the rest is history. Now, let me make it clear that I'm not defending the Bulls. I'm simply defending the legacy of MJ. For some reason, some fans here think he was just some lucky guy, on a lucky team with some lucky players and make some lucky shots and plays. Yes, he didn't win titles by himself, nobody does. But just like Hakeem, they make all their teammates better. We all saw how good Pippen was when he came to Houston.......without MJ. Is he the GOAT? Well, it's certainly easily to make a case for than against.

 

I already told u the other playoffs he played better and vintage Mj is 91-3.

 

Agreed.LMAO i have been telling these guys this.He was not in 100% bb shape.

 

if hakeem didn't fast at ramadan we would have 10 more championships.
god said people who mj was not in basketball shape in 95 will burn in hell with scottie pippen. jordan didn't play cause the nba was trying to coverup his gambling and ties with the mob. god said if u like the bulls and u are on this site your kids will look like pippen

 

Why don't you compare his stats from the 95 playoffs with the 96-98 playoffs instead???

 

huh

 

Damn tinman I didn't think you would stoop that low. The death of his father was the main reason why retired the first time.

 

get it htorugh ur head.Noone takes off 1 half year and comes back at good condition.U either never wathced MJ or something.MJ was way more explosive then that.Also in 96 he was getting old and started doing alot of post ups and turnaround shots.He was not 100% shape.Also in 96-8 they went to the finals which means he played more gms so the stats can't be matched up with his 95 gms.

 

Agreed what a low blow.

 

any bulls fan stepping on this board is lower than anything i can imagine.
they want to write bs excuses for their hero then i'll add to their pile.

they are pagans in our holy church of clutch city. devils.

 

94-95 Playoff stats 31.5ppg, 5.5rebs, 4.5ast, .484fg%

95-96 Playoff stats 30.7ppg, 4.9rebs, 4.1ast, .459fg%

96-97 Playoff stats 31.1ppg, 7.9rebs, 4.8ast, .456fg%

97-98 Playoff stats 32.4ppg, 5.1rebs, 5.1ast, .462fg%

Yeah, he looked SO rusty compared to the next 3 championship seasons