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Do people hide behind their religion?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by tinman, Feb 29, 2008.

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  1. meh

    meh Member

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    As some have pointed out, pretty much everyone hides behind something. Even if the person is not religious, s/he still hide behind some 'moral code'. Because who in the world wants everyone to know what an a-hole he is?

    I'm an atheist, but I still pretend that I'm a moral and upstanding person through my speaking manners and action in public. Religion is just a tool to further along the image. Nice if you can use it.
     
  2. Locke

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    Ken Lay hid behind his church. My inlaws went to church with him and apparently they figured his charitable works made up for his misdeeds.
     
  3. MadMax

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    Or maybe it's that none of us is entirely good or entirely bad. Maybe we're all a product of good deeds and bad deeds.

    See the movie, "Crash."
     
  4. tinman

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    well, i'll categorize the ones that are 'churched up' are the ones that appear the most fake to me.

    i'm not knocking on church people, i know people who are genuine people who also go to church.

    there's some arrogance by some of the 'churched up' girls that i think is 'paris hilton' like. at least the ones that i met.

    the less churched up ones seem like normal people to me :cool:
     
  5. rhester

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    Good morning,

    I do not know why I am in D&D on Saturday morning at 7:50 am?? :eek:

    Religion is undefinable today.

    As far as people who attend church, is that targeted at the Christian religion?

    Fakes in religion? Your joking. :D

    All people are religiously selfish. (self-centered, self-focused, self-love)

    Doesn't selfishness lead to conceit, theft, lies, pride, prejudice, fear, anger, hate, bigotry and murder?

    How much selfishness is too much, cheating on your income tax, holding a grudge, self-indulgence, racism, genocide?

    Isn't selfishness the opposite of real love?

    Can you think of any wrong that doesn't originate with a selfish choice.

    I will answer the question. People hide behind their selfishness.

    Everyone. :)
     
  6. nyquil82

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    As always, tinman is right. The religious fakes are much more infuriating than regular fake people. The difference is that society tends to respect those who devote themselves to a (mainstream) religion and expects them to be more pious. However, these types take advantage of that perception, or believe they are pious by association, and in the long run it seems that people are less trusting of religion because of these very people.

    There are so many cases of hypocritical "born-again-Christians" that the phrase has changed from having positive to negative connotations.
     
  7. rhester

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    I agree.

    As a Christian I would say that I am far more likely to fail than others.

    It has become obvious to me that trying to be a perfect representation of Jesus Christ is beyond human capability.

    I have had to settle for loving Jesus Christ and humbling my own pride.

    I follow him around like a little child.

    Which basically means every morning I get up and read the words in red in my bible and I spend the rest of my day trying to do whatever I read.

    I think the words in red in my bible are so unreligious, things like do unto others as you would have them do unto you, go the extra mile, deny yourself daily.

    I gave up christianity long ago to follow Jesus.
     
  8. Dubious

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    Live with a man 40 years, share his house, his meals, speak on every subject. Then tie him up and hold him over the volcano's edge, and on that day, you will finally meet the man." -

    Xian Yu

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    No, I just poked around looking for stuff.
     
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  9. Rocket River

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    nope
    Not at all . . .it is more than right and wrong
    it is a code of behavior . .

    I know alot of 'Godless' Moral folx who live good lives and are good people
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    they point is . . .
    If an Atheist believes in . . no sex before marriage/commitment . .. and does it . .. no one blinks an eye
    but
    If a religious person does the same then . . the 'Godless' will be quick to find a bible to start hitting them with it and then try to tell them they can never comment on right or wrong again cause they not living what the preach blah blah blah

    Rocket River
     
  10. Dubious

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    Atheists choose their own set of morals, so, they can never be accused of being hypocrites.

    People who publicly profess to accept a standardized moral code and then don't do that, are hypocrites.

    Frankly, do unto others as you would have them do unto you, is the only moral code you ever need.
     
  11. Mr. Clutch

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    So in other words, Atheists hide behind religion too.
     
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    more like, how can you tell if an atheist betrays their code of conduct when yah don't know the particulars of that code of conduct.

    a believer's transgression is more transparent because we know the tenets of their faith.
     
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    Thank you . . . You are more direct than I am.
    I appreciate it

    Rocket River
     
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    Man, Charles Barkley is awesome. I can't wait for his Governor's run. It'll be a circus.
     
  15. Invisible Fan

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    It's human nature to hide behind things. Progressives rail against conservatives, but the failings of progressive ideals practiced in real life can make those groups rigid and intolerant. Pushy vegans, holier than thou Prius drivers, snobby punk or non-conformist music fans. It's all the same. Douchebaggery isn't in short supply.

    Your other quote reminded of that Firefly reference.
     
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    I was just about to say, "War Stories?"

    Nishka knows.
     
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    no problem RR, got yah point from your first post.

    interesting position, kudos to you!
     
  18. meh

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    Well, "going to church" isn't the only representative of moral conduct. We also associate a lot of other things directly with how good we perceive a person to be.

    I feel the way we talk and dress are even more important than whether we go to church in terms how someone perceives us.
     
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    when did i say or suggest that?
     
  20. tinman

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    i go to church sometimes .. ;)

    but i ask myself when i get invited to go with someone to church, if the reason is they truly want to be my friend, or they want me to be part of their church/religion.

    the people who aren't the church goers i don't have to second guess why they want to hang out with me. besides, how can you judge someone you don't know well? you can't.
     

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