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Trade: Bonzi, James for Bobby Jackson? (UPDATE: Done Deal)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by farrisdabis, Feb 20, 2008.

  1. jakedasnake

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    At least BJ can dribble and has low TO numbers for most of his career. He is a very smart player whereas Luther can sometimes not know what sport he is playing.
     
  2. BigSherv

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    I can already see the blown layups and missed freethrows fading away...
     
  3. JBIIRockets

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    If Bonzi is that important to the team, man, we are in trouble, because he isn't the difference maker that so many fans are making him out to be.

    I will not miss his shot selection or his free throw percentage.
     
  4. bronx43

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    Shoot better than Bonzi? Don't get me wrong, Bonzi has a crappy outside jumpshot. But Landry is much worse. Landry THRIVES as a 4, while playing within the system. He gets putbacks, offensive boards, and the easy finish set up by teammates. He cannot do what Bonzi does, which is back someone down and get his own shot.
     
  5. wreck

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    we didnt need mike james ugly contract. bobby jackson is clutch and can handle the ball. he can help aaron brooks mature. but come on just as bonzi was playing well
     
  6. jVgOwnsYou

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    I'm thinking Jackson/Mac/Landry/Scola/Yao could be one hell of an offensive lineup....As long as Yao,Tracy, and Landry are in, our defense and rebounding will be good enough.
     
  7. cdrive

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    "action jackson" played pg in college. has 7 years of PG playoff experience. is a natural in the adelman offense, and was a proven 5 year pg back up for bibby, winning the 6th man award one year. all you need to back up rafer is someone who isnt going to implode, and who can get the balling pushing and moving. oh and attacking the rim and nailing 3pt kickouts from yao doesnt hurt either.
     
  8. hooroo

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    Hornets are already the better team. If the Rockets provide them with the bench they have been criticized for lacking then it's a very bad deal.
     
  9. Drexlerfan22

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    1. How do you think he became the owner of the Rockets? Asked nicely? Nooooo... he spent a ton of his own money on it. That was his economic risk. And how do you know he wouldn't be losing a lot of what IS his own money were he to take a luxury tax hit?
    2. So Bonzi has been elevated to messiah status now? We're champions if only we'd kept Bonzi? I'll miss him, but the guy wasn't even playing that well.

    And I'll assume that last point is a joke. How many stories about broke NBA superstars have you seen because they weren't careful with their money. Ohhhhhhh yeah. :rolleyes:

    You're right, I can't. Being irate with the move is fine. What I have a problem with is people calling the owner a "douche bag" simply because he won't flush millions down the drain for our entertainment. That is childish.
     
  10. forchette49

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    I'm referring to where these players are going to get the vast majority of their minutes under Adelman, not nessecarily just skill sets. BJax should be, in theory, what Mike James was supposed to be in this offense. But he's older, less expensive (in terms of contract years), and know's Adelman's system better than James.

    Hey, I'm not saying I'm a proponent of this trade just yet, but I'm trying to find the Xs and Os sense to this deal beyond the salary dumping. I will say this, if we (BJax/Head) don't start hitting our 3s at a much higher clip from here on out, we'll be done...
     
  11. seaweed

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    I'll be waiting till 1:00 pm today.
     
  12. sammy

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    Ok so we save 1 yr off James' contract but i have a feeling something is up

    I just dont understand why Adelman would let Bonzi go, if we werent getting someone else later today
     
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    I agree....maybe the buzz factor was missing, but this was a good trade. If anyone needs an insurance policy, it was Skip. The team needed experienced help at guard and someone that can make defenses pay for doubling. I love Bonzi, but his productivity can be replaced by possible giving Landry more time or better yet letting Kirk Snyder earn his paycheck. lol
     
  14. Chuck 4

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    If another move happens today, I will be surprised. I think were done wheeling and dealing for this season.
     
  15. Icehouse

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    Dude, Landry is not a SF. He isn’t that quick on the perimeter. What have you seen from him to even make you think he can play the 3 (not against scrubs…against the playoff teams)? Unless Synder morphs into a new man we have no size on the perimeter outside of our starters.

    While more time for Head may be nice, he is still a midget guard.

    Jackson doesn’t shoot the three with confidence. His jumper is like the other scrub PG that starts for us…streaky and completely unreliable. And he is OLD.

    Lastly, the Rockets past history with expiring contracts leaves a lot to be desired…and just because folks want to give away all their players this year doesn’t mean it will happen next year. I consider all the activity and dumping this year an anomaly.
     
  16. Drexlerfan22

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    Lux tax, and giving more minutes to other players. Unfortunately, that IS a reasonable explanation. :eek:
     
  17. solid

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    BJ is Adelman's Rod Strickland, get out the wheelchair at the TC, we need it again. I would have loved to have had a "ten year younger" Bobby Jackson. He use to kill the Rockets with his shooting, but he is a very old 35, and is unlikely to be much help. Who is the other guy?
     
  18. doublebogey

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    The biggest financial reason for this trade is to get under the luxury tax. Expiry contracts sometimes are gold and sometimes are just expiry contracts. It's all about timing. Bulls never got anything for PJ Brown's expiry contract.

    I dont even think Bobby Jackson is playing better than Mike James now.

    Losing Bonzi loses size, rebound, toughness, scoring in paint, a passer to the post and better defense than Head/Jackson. Moreover, Bonzi is a playoff veteran who had been to the conference finals.

    Now, the Rockets lack options to match up with bigger, physical guards. The small lineup wont perform as well because we lose another rebounder in Wells. All and all, the only positive for this trade is Les will save 2.5 millions.
     
  19. Yaozer

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  20. jVgOwnsYou

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    I'll answer your question with a question....What have you seen from Bonzi that makes you think he is a better 3 than Landry? All he does is post up and get offensive rebounds....Are you saying that Landry can't do that better than Bonzi did? I think he can...

    He can also hit the mid range jumper about as well as bonzi if not better.
     

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