i think he has two good years left, and hes not there to score, hes there to facilitate the offense. last time i checked they still had nowitzki, terry, and howard, but on the other hand i hate dallas so im hoping your right.
Yes, Stack is below average now. Look at that 0.389 FG%. He doesn't exactly bring an all-around game by excelling in other areas either. I am aware of that. But that's not the way they, or Kidd, would have wanted to play. During their back-to-back Finals years in 2002 and 2003, the Nets were in the top 3rd of the league in pace. Since then, their pace and offensive efficiency has slipped greatly, and their record has been mediocre (while playing in the Leastern Conference). The Nets of the last few years haven't been a good team designed around Jason Kidd. They were a mediocre and dysfunctional team that Kidd happened to be on. Little wonder why he wanted out.
I don't think they are going to suck. In fact, I think this is a nice move for this year, and this year only. Considering what they are giving up, with the two number 1 picks too....Dallas may have just mortgaged away it's future too.
if 'win now' means giving up our young talent and bench depth (maybe aaron brooks, scola, and bonzi would be the equivalent trade for the rockets) to get jason kidd, i'm ecstatic the rockets weren't stupid enough to bite on that one. the only recent trade that looks like a surefire win was the gasol trade. hopefully the rockets management isn't as panicky as some people on here and won't make a bad decision just because everyone else is.
Yeah but do they really compare to: A) Shawn Marion and Marcus Banks B) Devis Harris, Stackhouse, etc. C) Rudy Gay and Swift Gasol for those guys is a no-brainer, at least the choices above were ones you had to think about. Freakin' West!
I'm a Nets fan after the Rockets. Decent trade for the Nets. they get depth behind VC and Jerfferson with Stackhouse and George, PG of the future in Devin Harris, and 2 late first round picks for the future. They could probably parlay their original first with the mavs first to move up if they wanted...they'd probably add VC or RJ if they wanted a proven commodity. They now have a little light in their future now that Kidd was traded for potential. Dallas gets one of the best distributors to ever play the game, but it'll be a little easier for the Rockets to defend them with all the shooting they lost. They get defense at the point for maybe another year. This is no doubt a win-now move for Dallas. I think Josh Howard will benefit the most with Kidd at the point. The Rockets need to make a move...they had problems with the west before the trades, now those teams improved and increased the gap. It's not a knee-jerk reaction...it's making your move. Go Rockets
No one wants to be patient. They don't understand how the champions have largely done this. Detroit? San Antonio? Chicago? Houston? All pieced together the lineups gradually and became champs. No blockbuster trades there. Miami is the exception. Mavs let 2 bad playoff series put them in panic mode- they should have remembered that Seattle, after 2 disastrous 1st round exits, went to the Finals in 1996. Jason Kidd has 1-2 years left, and he's declining- he is absolutely no threat in a playoff series except for assists- and look, Dirk and Howard don't need him for that. They need an instant scorer like a Stackhouse or Terry, which Kidd ain't. I'm telling you, I have no idea who is coming out of the West. San Antonio's showing signs of decline, NO is still relatively young, and the other teams all have to deal with the chemistry thing. Don't be surprised if Utah comes out of the West- or drops out of the playoffs. At this rate, Houston might even be the team that makes it through- just because we haven't gotten past the first round doesn't mean we can't go to the Finals this year. Crazy.
Knowing the Nets management, they probably will. but they've been looking for quality depth for years now. Why they would buyout Stackhouse is beyond any coach's mind. The one guy that should be pretty upset right now is the "next Kenyon Martin:" Stromile Swift. Nets fans wanted him for years...ever since his FA year. He has the exact tools that K-Mart possessed when he was with the Nets. Nets fans thought giving Stromile the Kidd effect would bring a little KMart back to NJ. Oh well, I'm just happy they got Devin Harris. If Stackhouse is bought out, arent there rules preventing him to go back to Dallas? Should the Rockets give him a look?
"there will be blood" should be the new slogan for the western conference playoffs Every team is making a move to counter the actions of their nemesis, meanwhile they are all forgetting about the rockets. Houston is in the perfect position to strike. May the last team standing, in the west, win it all.
Are the Mavs crazy? I'm not even sure I'd want to trade Harris straight up for Kidd. Harris is already better PG than Kidd (in terms of scoring and defense) and in a couple of years, he's going to be way better than Kidd.
I totally disagree with the sentiments on this thread. With Kidd, Dallas will beat Houston in the playoffs, the way we are playing now. That could change, if Yao steps up his game for the playoffs, the rookies improve further, and TMac buys in with full health, but that's a lot of "ifs." Kidd will make all the difference in the world. They don't need another shooter. He is a leader. He makes everyone around him way better. He's their missing piece. The only reason Jefferson has done so well is because he's next to Kidd. Kidd routinely does triple doubles, while the rest of the best, like TMac, celebrates them every few years. He is way better than Harris, and if Stackhouse comes back, they don't really lose depth. He will kick Dirk's a$$ to step up for the big one. Kidd hasn't had much talent to work with in NJ. When Carter had a little more in his tank, they went to the Finals. But, now Kidd has Dirk and Howard, clearly all-stars, as well as plenty of other talent, and he's the missing piece of leadership they've never had. (We're in the same boat) Yes, they lost some depth. But, you have to give something to get something, and I think this puts Dallas at the front of the pack in the playoffs for the next couple years. It looks like its between DAL, LA and PHO now ... maybe Utah. Gasol, Shaq, Kidd and Korver are significant upgrades for each of these teams. I don't really see anyone else available who could help us on the level of these trades. We might have a chance at Mike Miller, especially with the GM there being buddies with Morey, but, what we really need is an upgrade at PG, and the only possibility there would be Cassell or Andre Miller, IMHO, and the odds aren't high. Sure, if Alston keeps playing like he has in 2008, we'll be in good shape, but he does this every year, until its clear he won't get traded, then goes into a slump ... at the wrong times, especially the playoffs.
Devin Harris is better than Kidd is these days by himself. He's not "depth" is the starting point guard on a 60 win team. A dumb panic move by the Mavs.
So suddenly the two most problematic teams for us matchup-wise (at least over the past couple of seasons) get slower and conform to 'our' style. First Suns and now Mavs...the stars are aligning for us, fellas
The Mavs improved, but I don't think it was worth their future (As a Rockets fan, I'm not going to complain though). Jason Kidd needs an inside presence. If the team is filled with shooters, that team will be exposed by one of the bigs in the west. Look what happened to NJ after Kmart left. Like always, it's on Dirk. If he decides to take the ball to the basket and play big, instead of posting up down low and fading away, then the Mavs have something going. If the Mavs run, they're going to be what you say they'll be. One reason the Rockets have had trouble against the Mavs is that their PG could shoot the 3. Jason Kidd can hit the shot, but when he misses...it's bad. In all, the Kidd to Mavs trade is a great one for the Mavs...for now. Kidd is pushing 35, he averages a near triple double, but he was in the East. Welcome Kidd to the Land of Defense. He's going to be forced to shoot more than he did in NJ...and that's fine by Rockets fans
