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Penn Jillette: we are not evil

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Feb 13, 2008.

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  1. basso

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    <embed src="http://crackle.com/p/Penn_Says/Penn_Says_-_Disagreeing_Doesnt_Make_You_Evil.swf" quality="high" bgcolor="#869ca7" width="400" height="325" name="mtgPlayer" align="middle" play="true" loop="false" allowFullScreen="true" flashvars="id=2174250&mu=0&ap=0&ml=o%3D15%26fc%3D52%26fx%3D" quality="high" allowScriptAccess="sameDomain" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.adobe.com/go/getflashplayer"> </embed><br> <div style="font-family:"Trebuchet MS";font-size:12px;width:400px;"> From Crackle: <a href="http://crackle.com/c/Penn_Says/Penn_Says_-_Disagreeing_Doesnt_Make_You_Evil/2174250/#ml=o%3D15%26fc%3D52%26fx%3D" title="Penn Says - Disagreeing Doesn't Make You Evil" style="text-decoration:none;font-weight:bold;overflow:hidden;text-overflow:ellipsis;word-wrap:break-word;">Penn Says - Disagreeing Doesn't Make You Evil</a></div><img style="visibility:hidden;width:0px;height:0px;" border=0 width=0 height=0 src="http://counters.gigya.com/wildfire/CIMP/Jmx*PTEyMDI5MDg*Nzg2MDkmcHQ9MTIwMjkwODQ4MjM5MCZwPTEyMjE*MSZkPSZuPQ==.jpg" />
     
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    Is that Penn? The sage of our time?
     
  3. Mulder

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    I think Penn missed the point (and obviously you did too.) I have thought about this too. I think "redneck" is appropriate here. Some backwoods extremist who couldn't handle that a person he sees as a "nigra" was now running the country could very well get an idea in his feeble little closed mind.

    That is FAR from saying that everyone that lives in a red state or disagrees with the substance or the party Obama represents is a "redneck".

    I see the danger as equivalent to what Bobby Kennedy or MLK faced. That a nutjob extremist would see a figure that a lot of people see as an agent of change and try to take him down and in the process make themselves famous.
     
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    like john hinkley?
     
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    Exactly. John Hinkley was nucking futs. So by Penn's argument it is wrong to categorize everyone that disagrees with Reagan as a bleed heart libpig wacko troop hating pinko commie.

    No one on the right would do something like that...
     
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    you would have been describing me in 1980, except for the troop hating part.
     
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    Oh come on, it wasn't THAT obvious Jodie Foster was gay!
     
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    This "agent of change" business is way overblown. Everybody wants to change some things and keep others the same. There are disagreements on what those things are, but they are relatively among the viable candidates. Penn is 100% correct here. Obama is no more a likely assassination victim than any other presidential candidate.
     
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    I don't want to search to extensively for this at work because I really don't enjoy being visited by government agents, but I think Obama got threats pretty early on, enough that he was given either more Secret Service Protection or protection earlier than others...

    I don't think the agent of change stuff is overblown at all, especially with younger people. I have worked at college campuses in Texas for over a decade now. I have never seen kids become as enthusiastic about the political process in general and a presidential candidate as I have with Obama.
     

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