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Being black cost Lynn Swann five points

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Feb 12, 2008.

  1. basso

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    hey, at least he was well-spoken!
    [rquoter]Gov. 'Blunt Talk' Rendell (and other topics)
    Tuesday, February 12, 2008
    By Tony Norman, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

    Gov. Ed "Don't Call Me 'Fast Eddie' " Rendell met with the editorial board of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette last week to talk about his latest budget. But before turning the meeting over to his number-crunchers, our voluble governor weighed in on the primary fight between Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama and what the Illinois senator could expect from the good people of Pennsylvania at the polls:

    "You've got conservative whites here, and I think there are some whites who are probably not ready to vote for an African-American candidate," he said bluntly. Our eyes only met briefly, perhaps because the governor wanted to spare the only black guy in the room from feeling self-conscious for backing an obvious loser. "I believe, looking at the returns in my election, that had Lynn Swann [2006 Republican gubernatorial candidate] been the identical candidate that he was --well-spoken [note: Mr. Rendell did not call the brother "articulate"], charismatic, good-looking -- but white instead of black, instead of winning by 22 points, I would have won by 17 or so."

    I know I have a habit of sometimes zoning out in these meetings, but it sounded to me like Mr. Rendell had unilaterally declared Pennsylvania to be Alabama circa 1963. Was he suggesting that Pennsylvanians are uniquely racist in ways that folks in the states Mr. Obama has won so far aren't? By the way, Mr. Obama won Alabama on Super Tuesday, thank you very much!

    What accounts for Mr. Rendell's overweening confidence that, no matter what, he'll always find a way to overcome the odds by at least 17 points even in a racist commonwealth, but that Mr. Obama can't?

    If Mr. Rendell, a Clinton backer, is right about Pennsylvania's racial attitudes, maybe we should get a new state slogan. How about: "You've got a friend with a pointy white hood in Pennsylvania"?[/rquoter]
     
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    Hillary changed campaign managers yesterday, so you're bound to see some shifts in strategy between now and TX/OH. It will be interesting to see if we start seeing Clinton surrogates talking up race again, or if this is just Ed Rendell doing his own thing. I suspect they've learned their lesson, but who knows.
     
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    Being stupid has taken a far greater toll.

    basso maybe you should stop starting threads and start dreaming up ways to mention Robert Byrd to make you feel better about being Republican - the party of southern white conservatives. HINT HINT WINK WINK.
     
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    Let me assure you that Rendell is correct, at least insofar as there are d-e-f-i-n-i-t-e-l-y white voters in PA who won't vote for a black. Or do business, or talk, with one.
     
  5. SamFisher

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    Ahh, see, therein lies the rub, basso thinks that because of the fact that there are conservative white racist Pennsylvanians, he is somehow exonerated for being a nuthanger of other racist white conservatives. Very amusing.
     
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    I disagree. Pennsylvania is a bad example since we're talking about a notoriously Democratic state electing a Democrat and then seemingly trying to figure out why. Swanny being white or black wouldn't have mattered in this instance, IMO.
     
  7. MR. MEOWGI

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    I would never for an Eskimo. Ever.
     
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    NOT surprising
     

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