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What's holding the Rockets back?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by tomjc, Feb 8, 2008.

  1. tomjc

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    I know statistics doesn't tell the whole story, but playing the devil's advocate, what's holding the rockets back from the "top tier" teams in the league?

    We all know the turnovers have always been a problem, but statistically the Rockets are in the middle of the pack with 14.7 with Detroit in first place losing the ball 3 times as less.
    We're in 6th place with team fouls with San Antonio committing the least.
    We're 4th in rebounding. 4th in block shots.

    Offensively we are worse than half the teams in the nba in categories FG%, FT%, 3PT%, assists, points scored in 20th place or below.


    Bottom line, rockets did NOT get better offensively with Rick Adelman, but may have stayed the same or even fallen in the defensive category. (Btw, this is not one of those threads calling to get JVG back. :D )
     
  2. T-mac&Yao=RING

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    For whatever reason the Rockets have not picked up as much of Adelman's offense as everyone hoped. Supposedly Adelman's got plans for the offense that have been pushed off until next year because it's taken the team so long to adjust.
     
  4. iconoclastism

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    What's holding them back? I would think if we drill down to the core, it will be a stingy owner hoping to make lemonade out a a lemon of a roster.
     
  5. blender

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    I might be pointing out the obvious but I say it's inconsistent outside shooting. Most of our perimeter players have been streaky, and in the frontcourt, Scola's been less consistent of late as well. Even "Have No Fear" Brooks has fallen into shooting slump.

    So far I think Adelman's been pretty good at figuring out who's hot and who's not and shuffling the rotation accordingly. The better ball movement has also led to better shot selection, too. Still, we need to figure out how to become a more consistent outside shooting team if we want to get to the next level.
     
  6. mac_got_this

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    1. consistency



    what tmac is goin to show up??? tha one who wants to play ro want to recover??

    what Bonzi is goin to show up: tha one whose agressive and goin to tha basket, or tha one who thinks he tha second coming of reggie miller??

    and imo, tha most imprtant, which rafer will show up. tha one that has tha skills to lead us thru tha playoffs, or tha one who'll hold us back in tha playoffs??


    2. Execution and finishing

    Plain and simple: Just have to hit (open) shots and finish(make your layups) at tha rim. NOt more i can really say on this.
     
  7. solid

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    What has been holding them back for years: the inability of the Rockets organization to surround Yao and TMac with the right supporting cast. It is not that they haven't tried, and it not that haven't made some improvements, it is that they still have not done it. Our starting lineup has improved with Scola, but still does not strike fear in the hearts of most teams. Every time I see the starting lineups introduced: nine out of ten times, the other team puts more athleticism and skill on the floor.
     
  8. Tfor3

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    a point guard like Deron Williams and a sharpshooter like Korver :mad:
     
  9. Yetti

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    Well I see that Yao Ming has never become the dominent player that we hope for. At times he seems not to want to wear the mantle of a great scorer.Even without Tracy he was good but only one of the guys and not the big time scorer like Hakeem was.
    Of course this could change overnight if we train someone other than Tracy to pass the ball into Yao, when he is calling for it. At present Tracy is the only good playmaker on the team but it is more important for him to score points than make up for Alston's shortcomings. :p
     
  10. Yaozer

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    Tmac! TRADE TMCLADY! :rolleyes:

    On a serious note, I think it started off with our arrogance from the off season, inconsistent shooting, and the fact that everything in this team was new. Oh and our team's health isn't helping either.

    However I expect our team to be a beast by the playoffs or the latest by the start of next season (barring no major changes in our core).
     
  11. goyao11

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    We are pretty much a splitting image of San Antionio.

    They got Duncan, we've got Yao. Kind of a wash there, maybe with a slight advantage to Duncan.
    They got Oberto/Elson, we've got Scola/Landry/Hayes. I think we are better here.
    They have Bowen, we've got Battier. At this stage of thier careers, I'd say Battier is better.
    They have Ginobili, we've got Mac. Mac is better talentwise, but Gino can really step up when it counts.
    They have parker, we've got... alston. Advantage, SA.
    Our bench is decent with Bonzi, Brooks, Landry/Scola, Head. They have a vet bench, but they are getting old.

    So my point is, we are alot like SA. The problem is that we lack the penetration they have with Parker and Gino. If Alston attacked like he did during the period of time when he was like averaging 17 ppg with Mac out and Mac continued to attack the rim, I think we'll be fine.

    One thing i HATE is when Rafer runs up court and dumps the ball to Tmac without any attempt to penetrate. Rafer should at least put some pressure on the other pg; the defender has to know that Rafer CAN drive. sheesh.
     
  12. Spacemoth

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    Our strength of schedule. Talk to me at the end of the year when everything's evened out. When you just spent the first half of the season with the hardest schedule in the league then it would make sense that your offensive numbers are not as good as you'd like them to be. In this stretch we will get healthy and confident, and after that will come our points differential and offensive efficiency and whatever other number you want to throw out there saying we're worse than we were last year.
     
  13. startover

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    The stats are up-till-now season averages, but we are a develping team with new coach and many new players. We are getting better, that is a fact before everyone's eyes. If you only count most recenly 10 to 20 games, I am sure you will get a different conclusion - we are a better team than most, if not all of the rest:)

    And yet, we are still getting better and better.

    Am I a little too optimistic? Hopefully not:)
     
  14. Jonhty

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    talent. we're just not as talented as the contenders in the west.
     
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    I think TMac is the best playmaker we have on the team, especially in the clutch moments. Since some Western Conference teams are getting bigger in size now, and Mutombo is not playing significant minutes for us this season, I think the Rockets may also need a long, athletic player (6'10" or above) on the team that has a good skill set around the basket. Ideally, this player should have very good hands, and can catch the passes and finish strong inside the paint.
     
  16. Birdrocket

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    never know what looks like pass the first round and how
     
  17. BMoney

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    Jesus, this is the most miserable, whining fanbase I've ever seen. They have been on a roll, have found three nice additions to the team and are turning the corner offensively all while dealing with a new system and McGrady missing 15 games. You people would b**** about winning the lottery.
     
  18. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    How much are the taxes?

    ;)

    DD
     
  19. BrooksBall

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    This is the correct answer.
     
  20. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    It is a BS answer, the most individually talented team does not always win it the team that is committed to playing together and honoring their roles and teamates that wins.

    The Rockets have all the pieces necssary to win it all......the question is, do they have the chemistry.

    DD
     

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