Sold out does not mean "good fans". The problem with the Texans crowd is that most of the seats sold are to people wearing the opposing team's jerseys. There were as many Manning jerseys at the Colts game this year as there were Texans jerseys total. The Astros do have the best fan base of the three, but the closest thing to tradition they have is the Guys who cheer on Carlos Lee. The Rockets trail even the support the Dynamo had at their very first game in Houston at this point. I was at two of the three red rowdie games two years ago (before they were red rowdies and fans yelled at us to sit down), and I sat with the Rowdies few times and every game I went to last year did the pre-game walk with them. I thought it was a great idea to get fans motivated. By the playoffs though, it had become a marketing plan. "Buy seats next to the ROWDIES", "Be SEEN with the ROWDIES". You can't make tradition with a promotional campaign (except for maybe rally monkeys). None of our sports have that.
then use the word barter then or compensated like I did, but the word paid can be misconstrued as monetary compensation at first glance almost everytime, especially when others don't automatically search a dictionary or recollect from their Economics class when browsing through a thread. I suggest choosing words wisely when others are reading it, if I didn't point it out people would have prolly thought that instead of us arguing over semantics. And for the ones arguing about our crowd noise or about the rowdies who get "paid" to be there: What is your section/row/seat number from your season ticket? That's not too much to assume is it? (I suggest looking up the first 3 letters of assume in the dictionary for the professor I replied to above ) Houston has a cheaper cost of living then Smogangeles.
For most of their years, clipper fans have to get drunk just to make the game bearable. About Toyota Center-- I think the problem, as Jonathan Feigan pointed out, is that the lower-bowl crowds spends so much time out of their seats and in the clubs or whatever they call them, just hanging out. Last night was supposed to be the largest crowd at the TC, but how can the crowd have much effect when they are not in their seats-- and maybe not even watching the game. That's the dilemma, though... you need the rich folks to make a profit and pay players, but rich folks don't get rowdy... and don't even show up in their seats sometimes. As for the rowdies... I think they got soft because Van Gundy is gone...Rick Adelman is too congenial, with Jeff, if you don't cheer, he'll send Chuck Hayes and Dikembe after your ass.
By the way... J. Feigan noted many times that the "game presentation" at the TC is terrible in his opnion. Do you agree with him? What aspect of game presentation is good or bad in your opinion?
I agree that the home crowd has been pretty terrible for a long while now, and I don't feel like the Rowdies are having much of an impact. I remember a couple years ago (early 2006) when we had that "inaugural" Red Rowdies event for ClutchFans members, where we all got like 35% discounts on tickets. We did an amazing job. We had the players all staring at us on the bench during every timeout in the fourth quarter like "whoTF are these guys???". ... So don't tell us we don't have a right to complain. Just cuz we're not cutout to audition as a cheerleader in front of a panel of judges doesn't mean we don't know how to cheer our asses off.
I know but I've lived in LA pretty much my entire life, its home to me and I do like my job a lot right now gaining valuable experience in my field. In a couple of years I am planning to apply for a better job after I build my resume maybe I can then look at Houston as a possible destination if anything is open there. But yeah if any of the clutchfans moneybags want to open up their hearts and wallets and fly me down I'll be fine with that
Are you one of those old 50 year old women that all they do is moan and gripe about things? Listen......BUDDY......i don't know who you are, but let me tell you to not ever write another thread like this one again. But all jokes aside im putting you down as the biggest loser on clutchfans. Were you at the game? I'm guessing not by this idiotic thread. Next time before you go write something like this after a game such as last night...........make sure your at the game...........AT THE GAME
Why not break up the monotony of the game...and try this crazy idea. Somewhere in the middle of the third quarter...or even the beginning of the fourth...have the Rowdies split into two groups. Each group would walk in a line around the lower bowl in opposite directions, screaming, chanting and wreaking general havoc as they make their way around the bowl. At the opposite end of the bowl from where they started, they'll pass each other and perform some sort of ritualistic high five routine that could get the crowd pumpin'. Then each group would make its way back around the bowl where the two groups would meet up again with each other back at the Rowdie section. Sounds a little corny, but it would definitely get a buzz going in the arena and it could become a game staple that fans would expect to see. Sometimes fans have to be told when and how to cheer...how else would tripjobs like Krazy George be in high demand.
NOW YOU'VE BEEN CALLED OUT Are you one of those old 50 year old women that all they do is moan and gripe about things? Listen......BUDDY......i don't know who you are, but let me tell you to not ever write another thread like this one again. But all jokes aside im putting you down as the biggest loser on clutchfans. Were you at the game? I'm guessing not by this idiotic thread. Next time before you go write something like this after a game such as last night...........make sure your at the game...........AT THE GAME
Yeah, talk is cheap. I don't live in Houston anymore, so I no longer have my season tickets. Talk all you want, but the consensus is clear. This year's "Rowdies" group is probably nothing more than a bunch of entitlement posers who think that they deserve something for free without delivering jack. Maybe some of you can act crazy during a tryout until you've gotten your welfare tickets, but when it comes time to sack-up and deliver something back, it's AWOL. Me thinks thou doth protesteth too much. In your heart, you know that last year's group owns this year's. And, we have the crap home record and zero home crowd buzz to prove it. Did TNT even flash one camera shot to the "Rowdies"? If you can't face the truth, then I don't know what to tell you.
I for one would like to give some props to the Rowdies...they do a fine job....If you go to the games you'd realize this. The problem is that there are only 50 of them...50 in an arena that holds what 16,000 people! And you expect only those 50 to make a difference? They can only do so much from there there little section that's tucked away behind the basketbal goal. How bout the organization giving them some front row seats along the sidelines (like colleges do for their student sections) or maybe upping the number to 100 or 200 and make sections on both ends of the courts. Or what would be great is for the other 16,000 fans that grace the TC to actually show up for the game on time and scream their heads of without the aid of thsoe few rabid voices. But you know, despite Houston being a fairweather city, the fans here do support their team when they play well. The playoff crowds have always been loud, in any sport. That's a lot more than I could say for a team like, say, I dunno, Miami, which won a freakin title but you wouldn't have known it by watching their home games during the playoffs that year.
Sadly, Houston is not a basketball city. the Texans and Astros have great crowds yet they haven't won anything. Look at the local news channels sports segments. They mostly talk about the Texans or Astros even when nothing major is happening on their fronts.
Maybe TNT didn't flash one camera shot to the Rowdies but I will tell you this... Craig Sager made an appearance in the Rowdie Section after the Rowdies held up a sign that said "This T-Shirt (Red Rowdies)" + "Ugly Blazer"= "Craig Sager". Craig Sager loves the Red Rowdies, it is like no other type of fans in the NBA. And Smooth Operator, if you think the Rowdies suck in general, try attending a Spurs game and look at a group called the "Baseline Bums", they aren't loud and they don't make any noise. Second, FSN Houston shows them on television every game, so they aren't forgotten and if they are no good like you say they are, how come people every game want to take pictures with the Rowdies? I can tell you that when the Rocket Rowdies made the road trip to San Antonio, Spurs fans "HATED" them and wanted to indirectly "KILL THEM!". I had the pleasure of attending that game and let me tell you, they were heard so much people on the lower levels were turning their head to see who is the group of people making noise in the upper deck. Sure enough, its the Rocket Rowdies! So next time you wanna talk crap about something or someone, remember the old sayin' "IF YOU HAVE NOTHING GOOD TO SAY, KEEP YOUR DAMN MOUTH SHUT!"
I repeatedly gave props to last year's Rowdies and with basically the same team, our home record really improved (from '05-'06). This year's group ('07-'08) is not the same, and I've asked them to sack-up and represent or forever be labeled the Pink Rowdies. Wittiness is not the same as rabid noise and buzz, so witty signs might be funny, but what happened to the game impact? Last year, you could hear the Rowdies on TV. Why not this year? You're right, the road game at Spurs you could hear the Rowdies, which is in an even bigger arena. This home stand is big for us, and I was shocked to see zero impact at a big game like the Cavs. Toyota was a tomb, luckily the guys played well anyways.
More than half of the Rowdies are carryovers from last year. If you saw the game last night, you heard the Rowdies just as I did. They were LOUD, even just watching on TV. I challenge you to attend a game in section 114 and tell me that the Rowdies aren't just what their name implies.
I have a feeling they won't be allowed to walk around in the lines..... All the enforcers that are at each aisle kinda takes a lot away from the game as well imo. At any rate, maybe something different to generate interest. I could hear the Rowdies loud and clear whenever i'm at a game, so maybe it's just the TV perception. Maybe the "audio perception" of the TV booth is too far!!!! Anyways, great job and keep it up! The Rockets should try to give more discounts to fans who want to stand the whole game. Heck, a standing room only discount for a couple sections might not be a bad idea too. I'm tired of watching people going up and down the aisles with 50 bucks of food throughout the game, twice on sundays.... I'm pretty sure you can't cheer for your team with a hotdog in your mouth.
seriously? this thread is the dumbest one i've ever seen. some guy complaining about crowd noise when he doesn't even go to the games. then he "challenges" the people who attends every single home game and cheer their asses off while he watches on tv? they are probably the only group of people that would chant: "novak novak!" in a basketball court. that's how much they love the rockets.