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[Official] The Wire - Season 5 Thread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Icehouse, Dec 28, 2007.

  1. Nuggets4

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    David Simon wrote both "Homicide" and "The Wire". It's possible he stole from himself.
     
  2. bigboi

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    Yeah thats what i figured I knew somebody worked on both shows, I thought it was kinda forced.
     
  3. bigboi

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    I lived in Baltimore and the portrayal is dead on and I am sure some of the Rustbelt cities might have went through this, Detroit, Cleveland etc both have had major budget troubles in the past.
     
  4. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    speaking of homocide, its nice they picked up Meldrick. Also mcnulty's ex was a homocide cop the last couple of seasons of homocide. I also caught DeAngelo on a Homocide episode. I'm sure other have been on both.
     
  5. Icehouse

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    It's a season 5 thread. Why would you hide something that happened in a previous season?
     
  6. glad_ken

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    Damn that Marlo!!! :mad:
     
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    In the newest episode, anybody have any idea what the guy on the bench show Marlo on the phone? :confused:
     
  8. Jebus

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    I think it was either some sort of fax type thing or a mobile website of some kind, since at the end, they showed Lester listening to the tap and you hear the sound of data transmission.
     
  9. coma

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    I think it was text or some kind of communication using the camera.
     
  10. Angkor Wat

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    Seems to me like it's a untraceable phone of some sorts. Back to the last episode, why did Marlow have Prop Joe killed? Was it because he felt he didn't have to go through him since he is now dealing with the Russians? Therefor, found no use for Joe alive?

    I hope Omar gets him, but Marlow and his crew are extremely street smart. If Omar doesn't get him, seems like the Barksdale crew will. Anyone else mad/sad that this is the last season? I feel this can go on much longer.
     
  11. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I love this show, but it jumped the shark when marlo killed butchie. they're now making omar and marlo this superhero and supervillian type characters. its losing some of the realism.
     
  12. Angkor Wat

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    I disagree. Marlo wasn't just going to let Omar get away free. There is always payback in the hood. It was also a way to get Omar back on screen. He left that life behind him. The only way he'd come back to B-More was if someone messed with his kinfolk.
     
  13. Jebus

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    Maybe, but I think we'll have to wait to see what happened to Omar, I guess. I'm really interested to see how they explain that ending. But depending on how he comes out of that balcony jump, they really haven't changed Omar at all. He's always been this badass guy that pretty much everyone is afraid of. He doesn't seem any more of a superhero type than he's always been. Actually, I was surprised he didn't manage to kill even one of the guys that ambushed them. And I certainly didn't think anything he's done so far this season was out of character for him at all.
    As far as Marlo goes, I don't think they're writing him any differently than when he first started on the show- he's always been pretty smart, loyal only to himself, and totally ambitious and ruthless. He hasn't done anything superhuman or out of character in my opinion.

    Besides, there are plenty of other storylines in the show- even if you don't like the Omar/Marlo one. And there are certainly worse fates for a show than jumping the shark halfway through the final season.
     
  14. Jebus

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    but they were able to capture SMS text messages using the taps in previous seasons, weren't they?

    It didn't seem like he was showing him the camera. I still think it has to be data of some kind, like a web page or something. maybe some sort of a custom app on the phone to directly contact them?
     
  15. pgabriel

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    people aren't afraid of omar, they can't get to omar, and when every drug dealer in the city hates you and you manage to last this long, it becomes a little unrealistic.

    hey, I love omar's character as much as any fan of the show. its great acting and its a good storyline but I just think its a bit played out.
     
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    Omar's superman-style escape from death was a bit much, as was his willingness to walk into an obvious trap. he is 10 times smarter than that, at least that is what we are supposed to believe. This season has dragged a bit. The fake serial killer plotline is marginally amusing but kind of an annoyance and the newspaper/lying reporter thing is transparent and sort of been there, done that. The best characters are the side/minor characters in the show, like Lester, Bunk, Slim Charles, Cutty Wise, etc. When it becomes all-Jimmy McNulty all the time I lose interest.
     
  17. glad_ken

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    The actress that plays McNulty's girlfriend is Nominated for an Oscar.

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    LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- Amy Ryan jokes that friends won't let her baby-sit any more, that society will never let her have kids of her own.

    That's what happens when you do your job as well as Ryan did in "Gone Baby Gone," in which she plays the mother of all neglectful mothers -- boozy, promiscuous, corrosively foul-mouthed and out either doing drugs or transporting them when she should be home with her darling 4-year-old daughter.

    The role has vaulted Ryan from acclaimed stage performer and TV regular to movie star, earning her an Academy Award nomination as supporting actress among her many film honors this season.

    Ryan dominated "Gone Baby Gone," Ben Affleck's directing debut. Coming out on DVD February 12, the movie features Ryan as Helene, a low-class mom who displays shocking callousness and duplicity amid a media circus over the abduction of her daughter.

    Along with the Oscar honor, the role earned Ryan supporting-actress nominations for the Golden Globes and the Screen Actors Guild Awards, plus prizes from many key critics groups.

    Ryan grew up in Queens and attended New York's High School of the Performing Arts. She began working in theater, TV and film, landing recurring parts on such TV shows as "The Wire" and "I'll Fly Away."

    Her big-screen career has surged since last fall, when she followed "Gone Baby Gone" with roles in Steve Carell's "Dan in Real Life" and Sidney Lumet's "Before the Devil Knows You're Dead."

    Ryan, who is in her late 30s but declined to give her precise age, chatted with The Associated Press the day after the SAG Awards.


    Q: How was your first big Hollywood awards show last night?

    AMY RYAN: It was OK. It's a little stressful, those things. The red carpets. I felt I was on the [New York subway] 1-9 downtown local at rush hour with just really well-dressed people. It was that crowded. It was trying to like, shoulder in. And I had hoped to see more friends, but everyone was off at their own table across the room, so I didn't really get to say hello to as many people as I'd wanted to.

    Q: You've been to the Tonys twice. What's the difference between Hollywood awards and those?

    RYAN: At the Tonys, it's a little more homespun. It feels more relaxed, but here, the ante has been upped, and there's more televised things going on.

    Q: Do you feel the ante has been upped on your career lately?

    RYAN: I do. And I'm glad for that. I feel very grateful for better material, and that continuing theme of working with great directors is happening. Because at the end of the day, that's the stuff that will be long-lasting. So that's been thrilling.

    Q: You just finished working with Clint Eastwood.

    RYAN: I learned a movie punch from Clint Eastwood.

    Q: Really? Let's hear about that.

    RYAN: We had a fight scene. I get slapped and I retaliate with a punch. Denis O'Hare, the other actor, he asked Clint, "Do you have a fight coordinator? How should we do this?" And he just had this small smile on his face. He's like, "I'll show you." So I got the slap and he showed me how to throw a punch. It was pretty bad-ass. I tell you, it's those small moments, that one exchange, that to me is magnified. Because growing up on his films and that one day, your heroes are your peers, it's an extraordinary thing that happens in this business. ... Watch out, Dirty Harry taught me how to punch.

    Q: How disappointing would it be if you can't go to the Oscars?

    RYAN: It would be disappointing, but I believe what the writers are asking for is far more important at the end of the day. These people's livelihoods are at stake, and without the writers, actors are nothing. But yes, I hope that a settlement happens before the Oscars. It would be a bummer.

    Q: What if the Oscars don't come off, you wind up winning, and you miss that chance to thank people?

    RYAN: Oh, gosh! What would you do? What would I do? I think I would sit in a big, beautiful gown on my couch and wear it for a week. ... Maybe the only benefit is if you lose and you take it too seriously, then you're home crying by yourself.

    Q: What did you think of your character when you first read "Gone Baby Gone"?

    RYAN: I thought it was incredible. All too often, you see two-dimensional versions of this character, the poor white trash or the drug-addicted character, but she kept surprising. She kept shocking and surprising, but it wasn't only for shock value. In her world, her choices made sense for what she's up against. Certainly, I can presume not in yours and I know not in mine would they make sense. But in her world, it made absolute sense that she would behave that way.

    So I like that my jaw kept dropping open with each new scene. It was like, oh man, don't tell me she's going to do that? She's going to say that? I couldn't wait to play it.

    Q: Helene clearly loves her daughter, but she's a terrible mother. Did you find much redeeming about her?

    RYAN: Yeah, in that she was trying the best that she knew how to. I could have compassion for her because I could see how a person in her situation is up against all the odds. No education or child care or health care, addicted. Really caught in a deep, deep cycle. I think she was the same 4-year-old, cute, blond, blue-eyed daughter once to someone else the same way. I'm sure her daughter will grow up into that, as well. So the question really is how do you break that cycle for the neighborhood at large or the community or for people who do need extra help?

    Q: How do you wash away the taste of an unsavory character like this?

    RYAN: When we wrapped this movie, I had to clean up my language. I was cursing like a sailor for about two weeks. I went home and I caught myself over and over. I went, oh my lord. So yeah, first I had to wash my mouth out with soap. You get drunk on the power of such strong language.

    But other than that, I've played really emotional roles in theater. With any job, you should leave your work at the office. Don't take it home with you. I took home the homework and the research, but not the emotional life.

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Movies/02/05/film.qa.amyryan.ap/index.html
     
  18. bigboi

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    People are not afraid of Omar :confused: what show have you been watching. The thing about Omar is, he has the fear and respect of the streets not every drug dealer hates him.

    Think about this somebody has to be buying the drugs that he jacks from people
    and the reason he has lasted this long is because he is smarter than most of the people he deals with and from working and dealing with that population its not very hard to do.
    I do agree that the window jump was a little out there, I think he wil be badly injured from the fall and will be holed up for awhile.
     
  19. Icehouse

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    I thought he had him killed to get to the connect. It seems like as long as Joe was alive than the “Greeks” were comfy using him and had no need for Marlo. They kept saying we deal with Joe.

    I cheated and watched the next episode early. :(
     
  20. pgabriel

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    the other thing that bothers me is they can't yet pin all those murders on marlo's crew and that the city would actually not pay detectives to cover someone they believe to have committed all those murders. there was somewhere upwards of twenty bodies. they need to have some closure on that storyline.
     

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