What's the difference between this ROx and JVG's ROX?

The difference is 3 rookie we now have.

Compare to what JVG have, Head, Vspan, Lucas, Hayes, Novak

If we have these 3 last yr, JVG should have us past 1st round at least.

 

We didn't have them three last year.

 

Bonzi's emergence from his own exile (or JVG's?, debatable), a willingness to play the rookies big minutes and in important stretches, plus the willingness to let your players learn on the job without be remanded if they screw up, and Adelman's tearing the team down and reshaping the personnel, rather than doing the easy thing of going with veterans over anyone else, while turning people like Mike James and Chuck Hayes into stalwart minute-getters, a la David Wesley and Clarence Witherspoon...

 

Yea I could see it now we beat Detorit or Boston in the finals, but it took us 7 games to do it. The fans on here will be like we suck becasue we should have won in 4 or 5 games.

I don't get some of these Rockets fans. They're mad when the Rockets lose and mad when the Rockets win. What do they want from this team?

 

difference to me is : u won a lot last year and we failed and this year , we started losing like crazy and began to regain honor little by little ....and i prefer this year 's mode

and we are really USING rookies, which is good

 

JVG sticked to the same play and if it doesn't work, he still stick to it and maybe probably asking them to pass better to Yao or find the open player better during time out. So it's predictable and hence if we are losing during the fourth or if our superstars (Yao and TMac) are off or if our bench players are missing, we will almost certain to lose the game hence no surprises, no come back, no win.

With Adelman, we have a slightly higher hope if we are not doing well in 3 quarters or if we are losing in the fourth.

 

Aldeman know how to use his people whether you are rookies or pros. JVG was being stubborn and stick to his game plan and was afraid to change. And also he would put the player in the dog house if that person did not listen to him.

 

No difference.both of them have not got anything so far.

 

Codell - job well done! I really enjoyed reading your comments and respect the way you support your opinions. I just hope that nobody reported you to the mods for using facts instead of opinion.

 

You must have not watched the NBA long, because there is a host of players who made something out of themselves after not doing much their first year or so.

Very few players have come into this league with unquestioned talent and/or skills and not made it.

Here is a list of the crappy players Adelman has dealt with as rookies:

Rolando Ferreria
Mark Bryant
Craig Neal
Byron Irvin
Alaa Abdelnaby
Lamont Strothers
Tracy Murray
Dave Johnson
Reggie Smith
James Robinson
Kevin Thompson
Andrew Declerq
Robert Churchwell
Todd Fuller
Ray Owes
Jerome James
Peter Aluma
Ryan Robertson
Jabari Smith
Art Long
Erik Daniels

How come he didn't develop them? I mean, damn, look at all this talent that he ruined!

So Adelman is either "unlucky", had a bad GM, was bad @ developing rookies, or had mostly crap to work with.

You feel its unlikely because you have a grudge against JVG. If so, then have a grudge against Adelman, because he has a boat load of guys that failed as rookies under him also.

How come Adelman gets credit for developing Cliff Robinson, Kevin Martin (which he didn't), Peja Stojakovich and Robert Pack, but doesn't get credit for ruining the careers of Todd Fuller, Alaa Abdelnaby, Lamont Strothers and Raye Owes?

See how ridiculous your argument is?

Usually it does. Talent gets opportunity, crap doesn't. Crap just gets flushed down the toilet, which is why guys like V-Span, Lampeij and Peter Aluma are all playing overseas.

I calculated them myself. Its easy to say they are worthless, when someone else's work disproves your point So take the time to do the research yourself to prove my calculations are wrong and/or worthless or STFU.

No, you said the #s were skewed, I showed they were not. I took the Rockets total amount of FGAs, deducted the FGAs in the games where both Yao and T-Mac didn't play, and then divided that into the total amount of FGAs for both Yao and Tracy, minus their FGAs in games where the other didn't play.

The whole point of my research was to prove what a ridiculous statement bluerap04 made (that under Adelman discourages Yao/Tracy from taking as many shots as they did under JVG).

 

Um, the Rockets and Knicks pretty much won also. Don't give that excuse to Adelman and not give it to JVG.

 

JVG was a better coach period. Aldeman's career depended on Chris Webber and the best backcourt in the NBA being Mike Bibby and Doug Christie.

JVG's pride was his achilles.

 

I watched every game. Obvioulsy, you were blinded by your Van Gundy homer glasses. As soon as Novak missed a shot, he took him out of the game. And we didn't have a bench last year at all. We needed players to step up.

 

i don't think so. a lot of people only think of adelman with the kings. remember, that kings team faced a DYNASTY in the lakers or else he would have had a few rings.

and he took the blazers to TWO finals himself.

JVG had a lot of talent on that knicks team remember--allan houston, sprewell, a young marcus camby, a veteran in larry johnson... but his stubborness and lack of creativity on offense ALWAYS caught up to him. he always thought defense wins and didn't care much for offense. defense kept it close, but when your offene is as predictable as ever, well, what's the point of playing great defense?

 

Available Talent.

 

Are there any -5 zero threads?

Well these would make the cut.

 

This Year's Team will get out of the 1st round!
that is the biggest Difference

Rocket River

 

NO EXCUSES - JVG
blahblahblahexcuseexcuseexcuseblahblah - JVGOFs

Rocket River

 

They're not as good defensively ithink. Also, if adelman was the coach last season, gay would have been a rocket. He has no problem coaching young guys.