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Barkley: Camby Should Be Starting All-Star Center Over Yao

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by hotballa, Jan 24, 2008.

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  1. SuperStar

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    Shows how much GMs know, Shaq has 7.4 percent.
     
  2. MFW

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    No. Everyone ridicule you because you are an idiot. The only thing more pathetic than your lousy excuse for an argument is your pathetic backpeddeling. You start off with a moronic assertion that some GM in the league would actually prefer Camby over Yao, when made to look like an ass, you backpeddled into "my argument is Camby is a better defensive player."

    The only thing that you do further with each post is make a bigger mockery of yourself, and like I said, is too stupid to know it.
     
  3. wekko368

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    I said that some GM would want camby b/c he's a better, quicker defensive player. b/c of his attributes, he would mesh well with some systems better than yao would. i havent backpeddled at all. You're just skipping some of my posts.

    No one has made me look stupid. Honestly, my reasoning is logically sound. If you dont see that, then you're blinded by your loyalty.
     
  4. MFW

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    First off, even if Marcus freakin' Camby is a better defensive player to Yao, it isn't by much. Secondly, on the other hand, Yao is a FAR superior offensive player. No amount of D Camby plays remotely makes up for that difference. Thirdly, you the idiot, conveniently ignored the fact that I pointed out, which is that you can easily trade Yao for Camby, somebody else and a 1st rounder, but not the other way around.

    Basically everybody in this thread called you an idiot. Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck... you're an idiot. To take it one step further, you're the idiot who calls somebody else "blinded" for pointing out that no NBA GM would EVER take Camby over Yao.
     
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    this the same camby that Tyson Chandler make look stupid yesterday?

    The same Tyson Chandler that Dwight Howard Schooled?

    The same Dwight howard who fouled out against Yao and sucked in general?

    Yao > Camby
     
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    No offense, but you're blinded by loyalty. Yes yao is a superior offensive player. But you claim that camby is a slightly better defender.

    Lets look at last year's DPOY voting:

    Camby won it with 431 total points. Yao had a total of 1 pt. Yeah...real close there.

    But to think that camby's defense isnt much better....thats being blinded by loyalty.

    And btw, not all teams need a high-scoring center. but then again, camby, for his career, averages 10 pts per game. which isnt bad at all considering what he brings to the defensive end.
     
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    Show me where I say that Camby's overall game is better than Yao's overall game.

    And you're logic for that sequence is that Chandler outplayed Camby in one game. And Dwight Howard outplayed Chandler in one game. And Yao outplayed Howard in one game.

    So Yao's overall game must be better than Camby's.

    Even though you're ultimate conclusion is correct, your train of thought is severely flawed.
     
  8. jondoe

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    Okay, whoever said Camby over Yao for the All star game (Barkley) is an idiot.
     
  9. MFW

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    No. Let me repeat: you are an idiot. Rockets before Yao, worst offensive team in the league. Rockets after Yao, top 5 every year, FG% allowed, points allowed, everything. Denver with Camby, still gives up close to 100 points a game.
     
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    YAO is pissed and kicked Charles' A$$ tonite,wahaha
     
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    Barkley should have to kiss another donkey in the arse for choosing Camby over Yao.
     
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    Once again, you bring up irrelevant facts. I've NEVER said camby was a better offensive player. in fact, i've said that yao is the superior offensive player.

    but you keep bringing up yao's offense when the subject at hand is their defenses. what is your point exactly?
     
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    He meant to say defensive, as in FG% ALLOWED and points ALLOWED.
     
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    Who knows what he meant to say? If he thinks yao is a better defensive player, he should say that directly.

    What do you think?
     
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    barkley please go back to kiss an ass's ass; that's what u should be doing now...i kno ur name is "barkly" but please stop barking okay :)
     
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    What, are you r****ded? It was obviously a typo. If you exchange "offensive" with "defensive," his argument makes perfect sense. I already told you what I think. But I also think you should stop posting. This is beating a dead horse.
     
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    I meant, do you think that camby is a better defensive player?

    calm down. let me assure you, i'm far from r****ded.

    why should i stop posting? if you dont have anything to contribute to the conversation, maybe you should stop?

    if theres still an argument going on, its not really a dead horse is it?
     
  18. MFW

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    Want me to draw you a graph? Let me spell it out for you:

    1. The year before we drafted Yao, Rockets = worst defensive team in the league
    2. Only significant move in the off season that year: drafting Yao
    3. The year after we drafted Yao, Rockets = 2nd best team in the league on FG% and points allowed, behind only the Spurs; and this was before the Van Gundy era
    4. The second year after we drafted Yao, Rockets = 2nd best team in the league on FG% and 3rd in points allowed
    5. The third year after we drafted Yao...

    On the other hand, Camby, DPOY, never brought Denver in the top 5.

    It's actually funny, idiots like you who don't watch the games pull up a box score, look at the stats, say "hey, Camby had 4 blocks" and somehow conclude he's actually a much much better defensive player than a guy who actually anchors a top 3 team's D.
     
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    I am calm. I already told you that you think too highly of yourself if you think you can rile me up.
    What conversation? Look at the history of this thread. It's been the entire forum ganging up on you. You won't change their minds and they obviously can't change yours. So why keep posting?
    And it's a dead horse when the same exact point has been repeated for the last 5 pages.
     
  20. plutoblue11

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    Another thing to consider is that writers don't know squat about who the best defenders are or who really deserves to be on the all-defensive team.

    When Raja Bell made it to first team last year, I knew the writers know nothing about sport and simply voted him on reputation (for giving Bryant fits). He is not among top SG as far defense goes.

    Camby is a better defender than Yao, but not by much. I think alot of people like to fault Yao defensively, even though he is pretty good....and better than most, just not the best. But as far as clutch defense is concerned, I would rank him a bit higher, he can play crucial and lockdown defense, like Kobes and Lebrons of the world when he has, too.....just watch some his games against S.A., Orlando, or whenever he has to stop another big man from scoring in the paint.
     

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