Barkley: Camby Should Be Starting All-Star Center Over Yao

You know what I saw in this thread?

wekko368 is obviously an idiot, and so are some Tmac haters who say they would trade him for some role players or else. But the difference is...

We would still try to reason it out with this wekko368 idiot who try to talk down on Yao. We give this fool the benefits of doubt that he is still a fan who is just dumb.

But we would start calling names or even make borderline racist comments on the idiots who talk down on Tmac. Some people would immediately assume that the Tmac haters have their personal agenda and are from a certain region in the world.

Can you all see the difference there?

So what do you guys assume this wekko368 idiot is from and what his personal agenda is?

 

What a joke. It's so easy to simply attribute all Yao's success to his popularity and nationality. Yes, Yao got his starter simply because ppl in this country's pity on him. Poor Chinese stiff!

Are you happy now?

 

Thanks for such a nice post. Why am i an idiot? Because I'm not blinded by my loyalty to Yao?

My personal personal belief is that yao is a great center. not the best (that goes to garnett), but great nonetheless. he does have his deficiencies (speed, clumsy at times, poor shot selection (he shouldnt be shooting 20 ft jumpers)), but the rockets team has been built around him.

as such, his success can only be referred to in the context of the rockets. to say that he could be just as successful on other teams built around other players (stoudemire, boozer, golden state, etc...) is a flawed argument. since there are few "true" centers left in the game, not many teams share the same game plan as the rockets.

is he going to excel in an up-tempo game? when was the last time we saw the pnr with him?

since when have i talked down about yao? all the deficiencies i noted...arent they all well-documented? I'm not telling you something you dont already know.

 

This thread is already 11 pages by now and many posters have already addressed how dumb and idiotic posts are. I don't want to repeat what they have said. Just re-read all the posts in the last 3 pages. You have been exposed as a dumb poster. However, if you have said the same dumb stuffs about Tmac, you would be called all kinds of names and some fools would prop racist jokes at you too. Consider yourself lucky here.

ROFL, you couldn't be more wrong there. You have just repeated what the Yao haters have said thousands times. I don't think you are smart enough to have those as your own original ideas. Are you really new here? Or are you just pretending?

 

This thread is already 11 pages by now and many posters have already addressed how dumb and idiotic posts your are. I don't want to repeat what they have said. Just re-read all the posts in the last 3 pages. You have been exposed as a dumb poster. However, if you have said the same dumb stuffs about Tmac, you would be called all kinds of names and some fools would prop racist jokes at you too. Consider yourself lucky here.

ROFL, you couldn't be more wrong there. You have just repeated what the Yao haters have said thousands times. I don't think you are smart enough to have those as your own original ideas. Are you really new here? Or are you just pretending?

 

Your post will bring more Barkley hater.

 

You do know that is your opinion that Yao is better than Camby right. Me myelf yea I think Yao is a better player than Camby, but that is not a fact. A lot of people on this board are acting like they don't know the different between an opinion and a fact.

 

Jeez all Wekko is saying is that certain teams style of play would benefit more from Camby then Yao. Of course he cant prove an opinion...that's why it's an opinion.

 

I know what the prior posts have said. I dont understand why a dissenting opinion makes me an idiot.

Who exactly has exposed me as a dumb poster? there have been dissenting posts, but everyone is entitled to their opinion. generally, a person expresses their opinion by saying their main point and then giving the reasons why they believe their main point to be true.

You havent given any explanations, and the explanations from other posters thus far have lacked enough logic to change my mind.

The deficiencies that yao has....are you saying they dont exist? of the two of us, you're presenting the weaker argument b/c you're not offering any sort of support to back up your contentions.

If you read my posts in other threads, you'll see i'm only a mcgrady fan when he plays within his limits. when he pulls up for a 3 with 22 seconds on the shot clock, he loses my respect. when that happens, he's putting himself above the team.

just b/c i'm new here doesnt mean i'm ignorant. ive been a rocket fan as long as i can remember, and that stretches back to when mike woodson was still playing.

i really dont care if people call me names. i dont define myself based on your opinion of me. you think my self-esteem is tied to how smart you think i am?

if people want to be racist, theres nothing i can do to stop them. all i can do is pity them. and hope they dont piss off the wrong guy.

 

You love to put Tracy down don't you? And if it wasn't for injuries Tracy would still be the best player in the game today.

 

I don't think hes putting Yao down, hes just making argumeants that some teams will take Camby over Yao.

 

Once again, re-read the last three pages of this thread. Your posts have been picked apart by at least 5 different posters.

I beat you on that. Mine stretches back to when Mike Newlin wore the #14 Rockets jersey.

Make similar dumb posts about Tmac and you will be able to experience it first hand. Some fools will assume that you are from a certain region in Asia and make racist jokes at you.

 

Can you imagine what will happen if a poster who writes in broken English tries to make arguments that some teams will take Baron Davis over Tmac.

 

For each time they've been "picked apart", i've had a rebuttal.

Since you're older, its only fair to say that you're more knowledgeable about the rockets from the time mike newlin played until the end of mike woodson's career. it would be incorrect to assume that you're more knowledgeable about today's team just b/c you've been around longer.

If you've read my other posts, you'll see that i do criticize tmac. he makes it very easy.

i'm chinese but i was born and raised in houston. i live by the galleria. so make all the racist jokes you want. does that make you more american than me? should i be ashamed that i'm not white?

 

As long as they have plausible reasons for their arguments, i imagine it would be a good thread with lots of debate.

 

Come on. Everybody knows Charles is just a clown trying to stir up something so that you guys can throw some eggs at him.

 

That is a really ridiculous statement made by Barkley. The fact that Camby has 2 great perimeter scorers and an abundance of shooters around him, and they still don't have that much better of a record than the Rockets doesn't convince me that Camby should even be in the All-Star Game.

Yao does everything Camby does, plus average 22 ppg against double and triple teams every night, because his shooters can't always hit shots and his great perimeter scorer isn't always healthy, not to mention the HORRIBLE calls that are made against him. Despite all that, Yao still has better numbers and more impact to the game. Camby's rebounding numbers are misleading just like Amare's because they get a lot of long rebounds that fall into their hands on many more possessions per game, where as Yao has to fight for every rebound inside.

I have respect for Camby, he does his job well for the Nuggets, BUT he should not be starting over Yao, and he shouldn't make the team over Chris Kaman. He's had an unbelievable season. Unfortanately, Stoundamire (who gets 95% of his points because of Steve Nash and doesn't play any defense as a center) will be voted in by the coaches, therefore Camby has no chance ot make the All Star team.

I think Barkley and Kenny have beef with Houston. Kenny Smith was benched his last year with the Rockets in 1996, to let Cassell start and wasn't resigned after that. Barkley lost to the Rockets when his teams had to best chance to win, since Jordan was out of the NBA, and they gave up a 2-0 lead and a 3-1 lead to end up losing both of those series. Then when he came to Houston, they had one great year, but couldn't finish it out, so I guess it irritates him that he thought joining Dream and Clyde would get him a title, but they let him down, when a couple of years before, they didn't allow their team to lose. Pluse the whole Pippen/Barkley fued, which probably didn't make his time in Houston any better. Who knows why he hates Houston, but this is just my guess.

 

And Bob Marley was part of the Fugees.
1995-96 Sam Cassell started exactly ZERO GAMES.
1996-97 Sam was traded for Barkley, never played again for the Rockets


http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/cassesa01.html

 

My mistake man, I was only 7 years old during that season, so you aint gotta get on my case like that. But if you watched Steve Francis's interview on TNT, and Kenny Smith's reaction afterward was his first DNP-CD, which was by Rudy T during the 1995-96 season. Maybe Eldridge Recasner or one of the other CBA players started instead of Kenny Smith, but Kenny Smith did not start every game that season, and his mpg dropped from previous years. But I may be wrong, but remember I was only 7 years old back then.

 

I knew Cassell, Horry, Mark Bryant, and Chucky Brown were traded for Barkley before the 96-97 season. I thought Cassell took over as the starter during the 95-96 season, but he did not. But on the basketball reference website, Kenny smith played 68 games, but started only 56. Therefore there were 14 games he didn't start because of injury and 12 games he didnt start because of either poor performance or coming back from an injury