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Tmac wants to give up All-Star spot

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Seven, Jan 21, 2008.

  1. bbjai

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    um yes?
    he wants to play in the regular season injured
    but he doesn't want to play in the all star game injured

    savvy?

    He wants to help the team win, whilst his injured.
    So he wants to play. You can't take the all star game off without being listed as injured. Hence he can't fufill what he wants to do if he misses the All star game.

    Really simple to be honest. His injured either way, but he wants to help the Rockets whilst injured. I thought that was obvious for all to see.
     
  2. bbjai

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    A bone bruise and rear tendon strain is actually quite a chronic injury. If you bothered reading any of the articles posted about the NFL player with a similar injury you would have noted the injury time, the recovery time and the effect he has had in the first game back. A Back injury is also a chronic injury since it affects your spinal chord. Sure he goes get injured alot, but it doens't mean his injuries are any less severe then Yao's or any other star for that matter. His not sitting out for a Migrane ala Jason Kidd. I don't see the Washington fans going up in arms about Gilbert Arenas and his comments. In fact I saw heaps of T-macs team mates say similar or same things in regards to the New Orleans game.

    No Im saying most people are taking his comments out of context. Like the New Orleans comments. They don't even sound remotely derogatory to his team mates and their win streak. Yet half the board has taken one quote and forgot the rest of the quote.
     
  3. wekko368

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    My point was that you said he was playing while injured. But in order for him to miss the all-star game, he needs to be injured.

    You contradict yourself.
     
  4. bbjai

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    That is the whole point
    he is playing hurt, everyone knows his legitimately injured.

    But he still wants to keep playing in games that COUNT.

    the all star game doesn't count so its a perfect time to rest his injury. When the All star weekend is finished, he will still probably be injured and playing in pain. But to legitimately miss the All star game he needs to be listed as injured and then miss regular season games. He doesn't want to miss regular season games. Is that really so hard to understand?
     
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    Why would i bother reading about NFL injuries when i'm posting in a NBA forum? You do realize that football is a tad more physical than basketball, right?

    I brought up his chronic injury b/c you were comparing his injuries to players w/o chronic injuries. Its illogical to compare a chronic injury to a non-chronic injury (i.e. broken bones).
     
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    Back Injuries are quite chronic if you ask me, they affect the spinal chord area. Unless that part of the body is not important to you.

    If you read the article you would have noticed that this injury is actually chronic, the article talks about what the injury affects now how he injured it, same details are relevant to T-mac. Chronic Ankle Sprain and a knee tendon strain belong in the same class. If you want a similar injury then Jermaine Oneal just shutdown himself for a little while with the same injury of a Bone Bruise. And Joneal doesn't even have a strained rear tendon.
     
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    You say he doesnt want to miss regular season games...how many games has he missed this year so far?

    So what happens if, on Feb 14th, he trips and sprains his ankle. That would cause him to miss the all-star game. 5 days is probably enough time to recover from a mild sprain. So he would conceivably be ready to go in time for the Cleveland game on the 19th.

    Are you saying that the league would mandate that he miss the subsequent cleveland game because he missed the all-star game?
     
  8. bbjai

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    they won't mandate him

    but they will fine him or the Rockets or both if they feel that he purposely missed the game for a illegitimate reason.
    Which is why in reality he might not have a choice since the fine is big. Someone can correct me if Im wrong but they could also suspend him for that Cleveland Game in actual fact.

    Kevin Garnett had this problem a few years ago if I remember correctly. Which is why i vehemently oppose your suggustion that he can just shut it down for the all star game just like that.
     
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    Actually, Oneal's injury probably resulted from him rushing back to play after having offseason knee surgery.

    Once again, to compare NFL injuries to NBA injuries is illogical. Each time you do it, you lose credibility. Honestly now...how can you compare getting hit by a 250 lb linebacker running at you at full speed to landing awkwardly and untouched after a jump shot?

    And Jermaine ONeal isnt exactly a poster child for durable players.
     
  10. bbjai

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    that is probably true on both counts

    But you can't pass his tendon strain off like it was a sprained finger. Cause its simply not that type of injury. I can attest to how long a sprained ankle might heal, but a bruised knee and strained rear tendon i cant. I don't get how some people think its a simple injury
     
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    You have already said he's playing injured. How can anyone prove that he isnt injured? If he says he feels pain, who will contradict him? Remember his knee problem earlier in the season? The mri showed nothing was wrong. But he still missed a few games because of it.
     
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    A sprained ankle CAN be a simple injury. There are varying degrees of sprained ankles. Some can be walked off. Others can keep you out of commission for weeks.
     
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    TMac is injured and by the way he is playing in the last game, he should rest because he is in pain.
     
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    thats up to the leagues discretion though. But it'll be clear that if he only misses the all star game and no regular season games that his clearly just resting his knee as opposed being "injured" in the sense that he "can't" play. Thats the rules. Garnett had knee tendonitis. He wanted to rest his knees. He was injured but he could still play. This is the same issue. I think the league issued a stern warning going that if you can play you have to play, to the Timberwolves at the time. So realistically the situation for Mcgrady is quite, well, poor. Yes you are right he could have a legitimate excuse but the league could decide otherwise.

    On another note, they picked up the tendon strain with a different MRI. The basic MRI didn't pick up anything but there is a different one that picked up something. I don't know what MRI that was someone can update it as we go.
     
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    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/rumors/...lt=AuM16kNJivh1namxq4G44_C8vLYF?urn=nba,62967
     
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    no, you misundertand, i finally see the light. t-mac is faking this injury. it's all his way of trying to look like a man and yet give him an out to quit on the team. he's vile and a low-life. we should just dump his salary like the knicks did with francis. t-mac is a cancer and he doesn't care about winning, just about looking good. he just wants to be the only superstar. he'd rather play on a horrible team and lose all the time. he'd rather be the savior and take every shot. he's jealous of yao and his teammates. he lobbied hard for les not to get another scorer because it would make his points go down. and he is only passing the ball to try to inflate his assists numbers. and he also grabs useless rebounds to make it look like he works hard.

    we don't need his 20 pts, 5 assists and 6 rebounds a game. forget him. and he is faking that limp. and he bribed the doctors to fake the mri. and he's faking us that he doesn't want to go to the all-star game because he wants us all to think he's still a good guy. and really, you know him better then anyone because you are the master of reading his mind. what would we do without you?
     
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    Wow...I don't even know where to start with this, but if I dog him no matter what, maybe you just defend McGrady no matter what he does???? I've seen you all over these threads defending him, while you criticize others for questioning him. It's the same thing, just on a different side of the fence. It's hypocritical.

    First, I have no beef with McGrady if he shows up and acts like he cares. That's all I ask. Since he's come back from his latest injury he's actually shown a bit of hustle. I have my reasons for my "hate"...if you would like to go in to detail about those, I will be more than happy to debate those with you.

    And by the way, my "sig" does make sense. I've been reading and browsing this board despite my "rookie" status for years. Just because somebody's classified as a rookie doesn't mean they're less qualified to talk basketball and have their opinions. In November, I finally decided to jump in on the action. I'd be curious to know how many other "rookies" are in the same boat. And since you're questioning me, YOU'VE BEEN A MEMBER FOR LESS TIME THAN I HAVE! WHAT MAKES YOU MORE QUALIFIED TO KNOW WHAT THIS BOARD WAS LIKE PREVIOUSLY IF YOU SAY I DON'T?
     
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    I understand your point and can see why you'd defend him. But I just wanna ask...if you're so sure everybody is wrong for their opinions and suggestions, why are you so sure that you're right? What are your reasons for defending him? We obviously see the same things, so maybe we interpret them differently or pick up on little details more than others.

    I'm just interested. I have my reasons for questioning him. What are your reasons for defending him?
     
  20. wekko368

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    20 pts, 5 assists, and 6 rebounds isnt worth 20 million. especially with the way he dominated the ball earlier in the season and his poor shot selection. given his opportunities, i'd say at least 25 other nba players could put up better stats.

    i never said i was reading his mind. i'm just speculating why he does what he does.

    When he came into the league, he had the potential to be one of the top 5 greatest players ever. As it stands, he shouldnt even make the hall of fame.

    i guess that without me, you'd continue to profess your undying love for mcgrady.
     

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