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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by MR. MEOWGI, Jan 17, 2008.

  1. watashi315

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    If you read my post closely, I wasn't referring to the fact that blocking shots as the ONLY requirement for an elite player. I agree you have to have the other attributes that you listed. Although not his fault due to his genes, not being able to block shots prevents him from reaching the elite level of defenders. He's really close though,
     
  2. Phil

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    Best news I've heard all day.
     
  3. MandM's

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    Morey needs to stop talking basketball because he obviously knows nothing about it. We are becoming the old celtics. He's a money ball guy not a basketball mind but i constantly hear him talking about the game, game plans, strategies etc. Nuts

    He needs to scour the nba for a basketball minded gm and make an offer for an assistant position where he can make it appear that he is making the decisions when in fact the ghost gm is actually doing it.
     
  4. Zfan

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    I don't think anyone can say Chuck is an elite defender in PF position until he can give some troubles to KG, Duncan and Boozer.
     
  5. DaDakota

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    He seems to bother KG and Duncan some....Boozer...not so much.

    DD
     
  6. Zfan

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    OK... then he's elite.
     
  7. thumbs

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    Too true. Agree with your observation.
     
  8. Hayesfan

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    How can you tell? He hardly ever guards Boozer. When he does I wouldn't say not so much.
     
  9. prv1981

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    So how do you think Morey became the GM of the Rox? Have you stopped to think that maybe he has been the "ghost gm" in the past? Or that maybe has had good ideas but since he wasnt considered a "basketball mind" team officials didnt listen to him and the C's continued to lose. Maybe he just maybe he knows a little more than you give him credit for about basketball and that is why he is the GM of the Rox after CD.
     
  10. MandM's

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    point taken.

    But...explain to me why the celtics sucked when he was there...he goes...they make trades...now they are elite.

    Now looking at his first offseason at the helm for the rox...changes but no improvement. Chemistry is lacking. We looked good on paper, sure. But true basketball minds will tell you that paper champions rarely pan out on the court.

    Go back to the Olajuwan, Barklet, Pippen days...looked like the best team in the league before the season. Turmoil on court all season. 1st round playoff exit.

    Something isn't working and it starts at the top.

    DM and RAdelman are proving to be mistakes
     
  11. durvasa

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    Part of the reason they were able to make those trades (specifically, the most important one for Garnett) was because they were able to stack up on young, talented players with value. Jefferson, Gomes, and Green, who were all drafted outside the lottery, were coveted. It's not like the Celtics acquired Garnett just out of a vacuum. And Kevin Garnett is the type of player Morey loves, so don't tell me he wouldn't have also tried to make that trade if he was the Celtics GM.

    So you disliked most of moves this past offseason, huh?
     
  12. DaDakota

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    By the way Boozer plays against him, this year and last.

    Chuck seems to struggle with guys who are bigger and stronger in the low post but also have a decent mid range game.

    West & Boozer etc...

    DD
     
  13. JeopardE

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    It's amazing how he struggles against someone he doesn't defend. I don't know what games you were watching, but YAO was defending Boozer, not Chuck. Chuck was forced to guard Okur who was camping out on the perimeter and did an excellent job of shutting him down. The few times Chuck was matched up with Boozer, Boozer struggled.
     
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    Have the Rockets ever tried putting Yao on Okur instead? While it gets Yao out of the paint area, I wonder if it is worth a shot for a change of pace.
     
  15. durvasa

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    DD, I respect your passion for the game, but I really have to question what reality you are residing in at times. Chuck rarely has matched up with Boozer because no coach in his right mind would try to defend Okur on the perimeter with Yao. When they have matched up, Chuck has done a fine job (even an elite defender can't be expected to shut down a stud like Boozer).

    As for David West, how many of his scores actually came on a one on one move against Chuck, and how many came because Chuck had to help on Yao's man since Yao was being pulled away by the pick and roll?

    I agree that much bigger players can hurt Chuck on post ups, but do not blame him for giving up midrange jumpers. He has to cover for his teammates a ton ... those are the kind of shots that have to be given up at times.
     
  16. prv1981

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    RA and DM are two people that work two different position for the organization. I dont understand what your complaint is. You are saying that Morey knows nothing about basketball and he should stop talking about basketball on the radio. Why does that make it a mistake to have hired him? What are you basing your opinion on?

    The Barkley transaction was made when CD was at the helm. Are you saying that CD was not a "basketball mind" either and that is the reason those transactions did not work out?
     
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    David West scored way better against Scola than he did against Chuck or Yao that last game, I think.
     
  18. DaDakota

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    LOL West scored against everyone BUT Yao.


    And Hayes did play Boozer.....Yao only guarded him in the playoffs last year.

    DD
     
  19. durvasa

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    WTF ... where do you get this stuff? In our one game against Utah this season, Chuck matched up with Okur, not Yao. Any time Yao is on the court and he has to defend either Boozer or Okur, he'll be assigned to Boozer. The reasons are obvious and don't need mention.
     
  20. DaDakota

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    Uh, Hayes matched up with Boozer all last year.......that is what I was referencing, his difficulties in head to head matchups with Boozer...


    DD
     

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