Adelman vs JVG

Weird, I seem to recall that "multidimensional" James and Francis actually getting playing time under only one of these coaches.


One dimensional Chuck Hayes, who is a "bad fit" for Adelman, plays more minutes under Adelman than he did under Van Gundy.


This is a pretty crappy analysis.

 

Jeff only trusted his best, well proven players with the playmaking. He hated mistakes, so he put Yao in the low post (where he wouldn`t loose the ball so often), and the ball in T-Macs hands, who could do something with it. He didn`t trust the other players with much but shooting on the offensive side, so that`s what they had to do. His majox emphasis was on defense.

For Adelman mistakes are okay. Everybody gets to do alsmost everything, if they are somewhat skilled in it. So the positions of the players are more interchangeable. And since the players are trying more things that might fail, it is harder for the defense to guess what comes next. I think V-Span might have even worked under Adelman...

So under Jeff, the best skilled players work best, while the others become one dimensional. Under Adelman the best skilled players get fewer touches and fewer plays called for them, because the other players are taking more of the load.

Both are pretty good coaches by the way.

 

No point in comparing them til the end of the year. Up to this point the team performed better last year with less talent than they have this year. It's unlikely we will have a better record this year, or home court advantage. It all comes down to how we do in the playoffs at this point. With the roster moves I expected the team to do better this year with any good coach.

 

I agree. Boki multidimensional? Couldn't pass or play defense, but he could take it to the hoop and *occasionally* hit from outside, so I guess he squeaks in under the "multidimensional" heading on a technicality.

Vspan, on the other hand, couldn't pass, defend or shoot from outside, and was pretty much good for nothing other than driving into the lane without a backup plan. In all fairness, though, he does become multidimensional once you factor in his ability to have unrealistic expectations, his all-star level whining and his constantly missing his mom.

And in NY, JVG preferred those one-dimensional losers like Ewing, who could only rebound. Oh, wait, he could score, too. But he wasn't much of a shot block-- er, check that. Well, he couldn't hit the three, could he?!?

 

I could not have said it better myself.

 

I will tell you who is better.

If the team gets past first round Adelman > JVG

If the team can't even get past Adelman < JVG cus JVG had way less talents on the roster.

If the team can't make the playoffs Adelman <<<< JVG.

All these Adelman makes ____ player better is BS if we don't get actual results.

 

adelman would put jvg in a half nelson. it wouldn't even be a fight. tap out by chokehold.

 

Did you actually type all those "multidimensional"s or did you just cut and paste? Cuz if you did type them out... man that must have given you a hand cramp.

 

JVG would've never played Aaron Brooks, Carl Landry, and Scola would've seen much less time unless there was a series of injuries which would've forced Van Gundy to play these rookies. This was the only way Luther Head got playing time as a rookie. JVG actually preferrred going out and getting players he was comfortable with like an over the hill Charles Oakley and Rod Strickland from the YMCA league to come in and play for Houston as opposed to playing younger guys who had less experience.

We all know JVG had some sort of role in the Gay for Battier trade (which screwed this team) and it was this type of philosophy - going for players that are washed up and past their prime as opposed to taking a chance on unproven younger, more talented, more athletic, and gifted players - which led to JVG supporting the move.

What's funny is that JVG tried to say that he had no problem playing a rookie after Rudy Gay was traded...lol. I'm glad Van Gundy is gone and now Rudy Gay is the only untouchable player on the entire Memphis team.

 

V-Span looked like a pretty skilled passer to me. Then again, if Van Gundy didn't totally waste him, we probably would have never gotten scola.

 

What I find interesting is that Gundy went with only certain players that he trusted. He was unwilling to take risks because he was afraid of players making mistakes and thus costing him his job. Ironically, his stubborn approach cost him another first round embarrassment and eventual boot.

Conversely, Adelman's willingness to try different lineups and him giving everyone a fair chance might end up being his saving grace.

 

The most wins of this season would not happen if they didn't played defense. The way they play defense should come from JVG, but we have to give the credits to Adelman for the use of rookies.

 

Was Gundy not let go this summer, Juwan Howard, one of Gundy's fav. player, would still be logging heavy minutes this season. Yes, the same Juwan Howard, who has been rotting on Mavs bench, and the same Juwan who had logged heavy minutes for Gundy for god knows how long.

Coincidence that Juwan was gone as soon as Gundy was let go? Puhlease.

 

Yes I credit Van Gundy for Vspan's lack of development. SO he should get alot of the credit for us landing Scola. Props to Van Gundy!

 

Still does not make up for his blunder resulting in loss of Brandon Roy but I will take it.

 

Too early to tell, already had this discussion, blah blah blah....

Let's wait if Adelman can get us past the 1st round.