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Dallas Morning News Q/A on Tracy McGrady All-Star/"Tradeability" Status

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by jsmee2000, Jan 10, 2008.

  1. jsmee2000

    jsmee2000 Member

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    Q/A link

    Q: My question refers to the fact that Tracy McGrady continues to receive a huge amount of votes in the All-Star balloting. What's the deal with this? Sure, he's a great offensive player, but the guy can't stay healthy to save his life. And he disappears in many big games, he's never been able to help his team win a playoff series, and you simply can't count on him because he's so fragile.

    I consider myself a somewhat savvy NBA fan – what the heck am I missing?

    Jim Connon, Cincinnati

    MOORE: You're missing the world's emerging superpower.

    Your criticisms of McGrady are by and large accurate. But he's a flamboyant star who has long been a fan favorite, and it doesn't hurt that he plays next to Yao Ming. The Rockets center isn't the only player to benefit from a huge Chinese vote.

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    Q: Word is that Tracy McGrady is unhappy. I propose that the Mavs try to get him for DeSagana Diop, Devin Harris, Jerry Stackhouse, Devean George, Eddie Jones and any picks/cash that would sweeten the deal. I think it would benefit both teams, what do you think?

    Aaron, Madison, Wis.

    MOORE: I think you like McGrady even more than I do.

    I must admit, I haven't explored the salary cap feasibility of your proposal because it's not going to happen. But let's say all the contracts off-set McGrady's salary. The Rockets would have to cut an additional four players, all with guaranteed contracts, to fit all those players on their roster.

    Now, let's look at it from the Mavericks perspective. You want to give up two starters and good perimeter defenders in Harris and Jones, a strong sixth man in Stackhouse, a young, athletic defensive center in Diop and a solid utility player in George for a player who has never gotten past the first round?

    I love watching McGrady, but I'd argue you've greatly inflated his worth. ​

    Note to all of you who keep on wanting to trade T-Mac...he is not going anywhere because many people see him as damaged goods and has he has no trade value (we would be in the losing end of the trade). So please stop those trade T-Mac threads until there is any concrete evidence...I beg you!
     
  2. hancock.corey

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    Get this. Remember that article by Sam Smith of the Chicago Tribune? My friends (it does not help that I am 30 miles from Chicago) are set on T-Mac being traded to Chicago for a host of players. I keep telling them that it will not happen. They figure it will. They say that the Rockets are better without him, which is complete, utter BS. I am calling it now. We beat subpar teams, that we SHOULD be when missing a player if we want to be good. As for McGrady, if you have not noticed yet, I do not dislike him at all. Call me crazy, but McGrady is not missing time because of his "usual" injuries this year. It is mainly his knee. He hurt it. What can you do? Before that, it was unusual luck with Luke Walton. What can you do? Pray, and that is it. Just like all othe fans, I wonder how smooth of a return we will have with McGrady, because having him back will definitely change some things (unfortunately for the likes of Brooks (or maybe even Bonzi on some nights)).
     
  3. jakedasnake

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    This just shows how unbelievably horrible Mavs fans are about the rest of the NBA. All they know is their own team and don't really know what makes other players in the league great. They assume they have great players and everyone else has scrubs. This idiot is saying that the Mavs would get hosed if they traded Harris, Stackhouse, Jones, George, and Diop. That would be the worst trade of all time for the Rockets and this guy thinks it would be the worst trade all time for the Mavericks. He says the Mavericks would be giving up two strong starters, okay only Devin Harris is decent as a starter and Eddie Jones will be retiring very very soon. Then he lists Stackhouse as one of the best Sixth man which is understandable, still will hopefully retire in two years. Then he says Devean George is a "solid" player. Give me a break Dallas. I remember last year when I went to a Mavs game and we were playing without Yao and they were playing without the vaunted Devean George and believed that was equal in terms of losses for teams. I just can't believe how un-savvy this city is about the rest of the sports world. Someone please feel free to write about your lame Dallas experience with a fan. They are very funny.
     
  4. drankcity

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    well said.....and for that i hope the mavs get another first round exit from the playoffs again this year! boy would that be something! :D
     
  5. Raven

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    There are only a handful of untouchable NBA players, and Tracy isn't one of them. It's just a matter of the right offer being made. Younger fans need to be reminded that this organization has a long history (both before and after Les) of trading away so called franchise players. I think McGrady is safe - for now - but that could change depending on what happens between now and the trade deadline.
     
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    LOL this idiot thinks the Mavs wouldn't jump on that trade? :D
     
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    a slanted article by the dallas media really prooves your point. congrats. :rolleyes:
     
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    or maybe we just dont want to face it :)
     
  9. professorjay

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    Wow, what a ridiculous trade proposal. I feel dumber just for reading that.
     
  10. shipwreck

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    i would do a deal for josh howard. my hunch is that if the mavs have any idea what they are doing (and at this point i'm not really sure), that howard would be more untouchable than mcgrady.

    the most attractive part of it to me is leaving the mavs with tmac/dirk. dallas would lose so much by giving up howard, his style physical of hustle and run has always been integral to mavs ball. this year, his offensive arsenal has expanded beyond what i ever thought he would. maybe the mavs would be dumb enough to think he has hit his ceiling and feel compelled to strike while the iron is hot.
     
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    Just looking at this board the past couple months, I don't think Rocket fans are too far behind.
     
  12. jsmee2000

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    thank you!
     
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    T-Mac isn't Jordan, Jesus or even Jesus Shuttlesworth, and no good team in the NBA is going to tear apart its roster to aquire T-Mac. That's the point of the article and this post. There's no need to be a prick, even if you disagree with the premise.

    I might be uninformed, but I haven't seen an article where Les and/or Morey and/or Adelman have come out and said unequivocally that (1) there is no truth to any of the trade rumors or, and more importantly, (2) that T-Mac is not going to be traded.

    Don't be surprised if T-Mac isn't here next season if we don't make it past the first round this year. As for whether a trade will happen by the trading deadline on February 22nd, my guess is that it won't happen because there is no sense of urgency and management doesn't want to act impulsively. But if we don't make it past the first round this year, who will want T-Mac then, assuming that we want to make a trade after the season?

    HOWEVER YOU SLICE THE CAKE, T-MAC'S JERSEY WILL NEVER HANG IN THE TOYOTA CENTER.
     
  14. Old Man Rock

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    I agree some of those statements are just plain stupid. But it doesn't sound that much more homeristic than many of the fans on this board. Aldridge and ROy for Mcgrady... Deng Hinrich and Noah for Tmac... Arenas and Butler for Tracy.

    Nothing realistic their either but if you think there is than you are guilty of homerism just like the Dallas fans. The current injury prone, 20 mil salary, weak hearted - unable to get out of the 1st round TMac is not going to get those type of players right now. But let's just say he comes back healthy and plays his best basketball while geling with the team and we make it to the WC finals or Championship. Then the phones will be ringing off the hook. Of course why would you want to trade that TMac. Let's hope that TMac returns friday.
     
  15. JoeBarelyCares

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    Now Mitch Lawrence is propulgating Tmac unhappy and trade rumors, and speculating the Knicks could get involved. This is b.s. - the Knicks have no one, outside of David Lee, that the Rockets would want. Morey said yesterday that TMac is very happy here, and he has talked to no one about trading TMac. I believe him.

    For entertainment purposes only, here is the article:

    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/columnists/lawrence/index.html?page=1

    This was out of character for Thomas. Normally, he confines himself to saying stupid stuff, and last night was no exception. Beforehand, he was asked about possible trades, which was appropriate considering that McGrady's name has started coming up in trade rumors.

    T-Mac's not the most popular guy with teammates because he breaks off plays and looks out for No. 1, not the first time he's been accused of being selfish. Just talk to the folks in Orlando. It's just more interesting now because the Rockets might consider breaking up Yao and McGrady, and guess who would love to get McGrady?

    Thomas, of course, would welcome McGrady to New York with a ticker-tape parade. He drafted T-Mac in Toronto, so he has a history with him. And there are a few things that make McGrady perfect for the Knicks.

    He'd come with a huge contract - two years to go at $44 million - but that's never scared off Jim Dolan, if you know anything about his approach to filling his roster. This season, he's paying almost $120 million in salaries and luxury tax, meaning he's getting less bang for the buck than any other owner.

    McGrady would come with a history of back problems, but that didn't keep Thomas from trading for Quentin Richardson.

    Regardless of McGrady's highly embarrassing personal playoff mark (0-for-6 in the first round), that would not scare off the Knicks, who would welcome a new box-office attraction. All that is contingent on Thomas sticking around, of course, and then hoodwinking the Rockets into giving him McGrady.

    But when asked last night who's untouchable on his team, Thomas said, "everybody's untouchable."

    Really?

    No, it wasn't quite the inane championship talk of last week when Thomas spoke of leaving an imprint and a blueprint. But it was still good for a laugh.

    Wednesday night, he definitely left an imprint.

    The wrong kind.
     
  16. mrm32

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    Unless Josh Howard is involved, reject any trade to Dallas involving T-Mac
     
  17. BigM

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    anyone who brings up the chinese is an idiot and this guy tops it off with rejecting a mcgrady for dallas scrubs deal.
     
  18. TeamUSA

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    Tmac for Josh. Do it Morey.
     
  19. Raven

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    That's a very interesting point.
     
  20. Matchman

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    I am sure McGrady did benefit from a lot of chinese votes to put him over Iverson and others, although i think the majority of the votes still came from Rockets fans
     

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