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The Answer is: TMAC

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Lonestar, Jan 6, 2008.

  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I said this:

    When PopRocks said it much more clearly here:

     
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    yup....dumbest fans in the league.
     
  3. TTRocket

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    There will be times when the offense comes to a standstill and we'll have nobody moving(mostly in the 4th) This is when the offense must run thru T-Mac.

    Otherwise. He just needs to fit himself in and realize that he doesn't need to call for the ball 30+ ft away from the basket.

    His best games this season were when he was getting the ball coming off screens 15-18ft away from the basket resulting in easy mid-range jumpers or one-dribble drives to the rim.
     
  5. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Yes, but there will always be situations when you want t-mac to take the game into his hands.

    In a sense, we now have two systems. One is running adelman's system, the other is the ball into t-mac's hands and let him create. Now, while we all know how much everyone hates running the ball through t-mac because it leads to stagnation - we have to think about why that is.

    The reason is that teams begin to double T-mac and adjust. So if you keep doing it, it becomes less effective. Now that's the key, to eliminate double teaming of T-mac. And that's the genius of Adelman's system.

    So for most of a game, the offense runs like you suggest, with t-mac on the wing. They won't double T-mac without other guys punishing them. But when the defense tightens up in the 4th qtr, you have another option now on offense.

    You have Tracy MacGrady to put the ball into his hands - without a double team!

    Imagine how much more effective t-mac can be. Imagine how much better we can be at closing out games when all of a sudden, the defense, which has been playing and adjusting to Adelman's princeton offense, faces T-mac with time winding down on a one-on-one situation.

    Double T-mac, and the ball will zip through the rest of the team for an easy shot. Single cover him, and you're going to be in trouble as well.

    This is why I think when t-mac comes back, we'll be a far better team.


    It's not just about that one way or the other way is better - you want both. It's like Hakeem and what made him so good was that he has so many moves no one knew how to guard him.

    That's what you want with the Rockets. An offense that makes everyone effective and a threat, but also that allows your stars to break away and take over on any given play.

    Now how do you defend that?
     
  6. DaDakota

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    No, not correct.

    Tmac, Alston, Brooks, any of them can break the defense down and set the table for each other or the rest of the team.

    The idea is to get the defense to start rotating...and that creates space for non creative shooters like Head, Yao, Battier...etc..

    DD
     
  7. fuzzy88

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    MeMac was not happy when Rox were losing. C'mon, no one likes losing. SheMac doesn't know how to lead a team to the winning way, mind you, so all s(he) did was pout.

    Now that Rox is winning again, he will be fine. As long as he plays within the system instead of trying to take over, he will be an awesome part of the team, like a Ginobili on steroid without the grittiness.
     
  8. Old Man Rock

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    How About David Lee and Jamal Crawford
     
  9. badgerfan

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    If not then he should be iso'd.
     
  10. BackNthDay

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    All we ask of Tmac is to play hard every night like Garnett!!! I've never seen Garnett take a night off and plays the other team best player down the stretch and shuts them down.
     
  11. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    But in reality, when the pressure is on guys might tighten up. we saw it against orlando and the knicks (although brooks does look like he has ice water in his veins - which to be honest what impresses me most about this kid).

    defenses will adjust to any system. but if you can throw wrenches in that and give them different looks at different times, you'll keep the defense off balanced and in the end generate even better scoring opportunities.

    tmac one-on-one with any player is a good match-up for us.
     
  12. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    So you watched all those games last season with Garnett playing hard when minnesota was getting blown out nightly?
     
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    Garnett has played hard from day one and the Minnesota team is trash in comparison to the Rocket team. Don't dare suggest Mclady comes close to Garnetts intensity.
     
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    we may see a step back again when mcgrady returns as it's clear the team, up till he got hurt, hasn't adjusted to the offense with him in it. too much standing around and not enough ball movement.

    what we should look forward to is that this offense clearly does work and what we should know from t-mac is that he's an excellent and willing passer and a very high iq basketball player. you combine those 2 with the speed that brooks and alston posses in running the team and we should eventually see what we have now plus everything that mcgrady brings.

    our record may not be as good as we all expected but tracy's injury combined with the emergence of brooks may have actually saved this season.
     
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    We're playing more competitive recently. Not afraid of good teams, a very good sign. Hope we can keep this up when the soft Tmac is back.
     
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    I might do it. Does Crawford come off the books soon?
     
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    You again?

    Another jab at Yao disguised in a pathetic way.

    Shoo away please. This is not a Celtics, Jazz, or [insert name of team with fast Yao-destroying power forward] fan site.
     
  18. bronx43

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    Why doesn't Clutch just ban the fool?
     
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    let me explained it to you.at the beginning of the season ,t-mac was not playing with the ball in his hands .but the players look so lost on the court,and didn't know the adelman offense yet.they didn't know when to cut ,they didn't know where to go on the court.only bonzi seems to play well.get your facts straight before talking nonsense.the guy has his weakness but this is nonsense to think that he didn't want to play the motion offense.go watch all the tapes again and come back
     
  20. SageHare6

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    I totally agree with Lonestar

    This love hate relationship with T-Mac as this phenomenal talent ignores the more obvious fact that T-Mac's talent is not "rising" with each passing year, but more likely DECLINING alongside his physical body How do I know? Look past the raw statistics and delve into HOW T-Mac has been getting his points. Anecdotally, people have noted how T-Mac settles way too much for his jump shot. And I would agree. It also implies that he's getting far FEWER points on penetration and getting to the line far less than the likes of a Kobe Bryant. MJ was a great player even past his 30s, b/c he understood how to get to the line in the late stages of the game and ultimately to win the game - this despite his aging body. Sure some rules have changed but for penetrators getting fouled on the way to the hoop, it's still largely the same.

    With AB we HAVE precisely someone (much like a certain SF3 in his younger days) whose talent is definitely there, and the manifestation of which is RISING. If talent were some abstract bar to which a certain player has the POTENTIAL to showcase more in the way of skill, then AB has that high bar, TMac does not. I feel similarly for Scola.

    Other food for thought - much like Riley JVG was never the right coach for developing players - thus, the hand they play was usually a mature one from the get go - mature in both age, experience, AND talent. Adelman inherited a good deal of that JVG crew - thus I would not be too quick to fault Adelman for not having a squad that has responded well to his system. Flip side is that JVG's teams have had difficulty upgrading personnel or getting "better" significantly the way younger teams can. THere's just no development roadmap so to speak. But the opportunity to cultivate a young AB into a legit NBA one guard the likes of a Bibby or Parker is just TOO big an opportunity to pass up here. Bibby was not a #1 pick - but that hasn't stopped him from showcasing his talent.

    I feel the same with AB.

    Sorry for the rant...


    -theSage
     

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