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For the Gamers: How to Kill a Brand

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Rocket G, Jan 2, 2008.

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  1. RC Cola

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    I do wonder if perhaps consoles will become more "PC-like" in the next few years. As Uprising mentioned, I find it hard to pick a console over a PC for a FPS (or RTS), primarily due to M&KB controls. However, the PS3 supports M&KB controls and the Wii remote does an OK job of representing a mouse (not quite as good, but close enough IMO). Then there are mods, which are apparently possible on consoles. Those two things are probably the main reason why I prefer to get some games for the PC. Then you throw in the fact that it seems like more and more PC developers are porting their games to consoles (HL2, Doom, Spore, C&C3, BioShock, Fallout 3, etc.).

    Of course, these things will take time and effort on the part of developers to actually make a difference. Now that I think about it, I think the PS2 supported M&KB controls, but few developers actually supported it (like the PS3 so far).
     
  2. SamFisher

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    The most successful console of the past few years has been the one that is the most avowedly un-PC-like. The least successful is probably the one that is most PC-esque. If that is true then it would mark a distinct reversal of market trends.
     
  3. DOMINATOR

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    look at the list i posted... it was under 1500 from newegg. if you don't want to build it im sure Fry's or somewhere will do it for under $100. it's not that difficult though. i didn't get a monitor, dunno if you wanted/needed that in the budget.

    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=3354108&postcount=13 - you may want a different motherboard if you ever wanted to do SLI.
     
  4. RC Cola

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    That's probably just a coincidence, although I was talking more along the lines of the whole console generation in general anyway. Regardless of which console is most PC-like and which one is un-PC-like, I'm wondering if perhaps the consoles in general will be much more PC-like than they have in the past (probably already the case if you think about it I guess). The Wii may be least affected due to technical issues (unlikely to get many PC ports or mod support for example), although I guess it does have an Internet browser which can count for something I guess. The other 2 consoles could enable a lot of PC-esque features in console games though, especially if MS eases up on a few restrictions (and, of course, developers actually use these features).
     
  5. Deckard

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    I've built them before, but it's been a few years. I don't have a whole lot of time to spend on it, so I'd rather someone else did. ;) I'm looking around.
     
  6. wizkid83

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    I was once a very pro - PC gaming kind of guy, but I've being driven from it not only due to high cost of upkeep and more importantly a lower selection of gaming for my taste. Here's why I'm shifting to a console based gamer.

    PC used to be head and shoulders above console in terms of graphics, but that gap just isn't that wide anymore. Also the amount FPS these days on PC are just staggering, and for some one that doesn't play FPS that's about 50% of the PC gaming selection.

    I also like RPGs, but it seem like there just aren't any really good non-MMO RPG (I played WOW and then burned out) PC exclusives any more. Even as late as 2003, you still had some quality games like Dungeon Siege, KOTOR, etc. But days where top RPG (with atleast a passable story) being exclusively on the PC seem to be wanning. Any good PC RPG (Oblivion) will be likely to be on the console while vice-versa is not true (I think FFVIII was the last of the FF series to be on the PC).

    I also play a lot of sports games on PC, which means I play EA sports, which means I was going to be stuck with no games for NCAA and also horrible gameplay through out. Also no boxing games either.

    Strategy games and business games (Civilization, Supreme Commander, Starcraft II) are about the only type of games where it drives me to even upgrade my computer for gaming these days. But really for anything else, there's no reason to pick PC over a console.
     
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  7. Christopher

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    Yeah I know that champ. I mean they should have gone after Take Two as MS did with Bungie....I should have made myself clearer. :D


    I just look at the PS3 at the moment and as it stands....it doesn't offer anything other consoles don't that people actually want.

    I think the PS3 will have a very long lifespan, but with graphics these days all being great across all systems and with how much the PS3 costs and the fact it hasn't got a few iconic games like the PS2 did....its just in a real bad place right now.
     
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    even the wii is somewhat pc like. Internet (weather, news, etc), download old games, and i think you can manage pictures and such...plus they always have the ability to add more "channels".

    All the consoles are somewhat pclike really, i.e. multitasking machines. They simple do not have the depth of a PC in said tasks.
     
  9. Royals Ego

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    like many have already said, if you're computer savvy, building your own would be the best choice, but if you're computer savvy you wouldn't need our advice

    there are many many sites on the internet that offer gaming PCs at an affordable price, above average only run about $1,200.00 ...

    i am a FPS and MMORPG nerd :rolleyes: , and PC is the only way to go for me
     
  10. RC Cola

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    Two completely different situations, not to mention there would technically be no real point in going after Take Two vs Rockstar (Take Two doesn't do very well outside of GTA). I think MS might have paid more for their exclusive GTA 4 content than they did to acquire Bungie actually.

    They have issues to work out, but the situation doesn't seem that different from the PS2 or 360 one year in (could argue it might even be better in some aspects). I'd be concerned if they're in the same spot a year from now (after they actually release some JRPGs, GT5, MGS4, Killzone, etc.). Even if they had GTA4 exclusivity, the situation would probably be exactly the same right now.
     
  11. Christopher

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    Thats interesting. That means MS really made out huge on their deal to get Bungie then.

    I don't know...I just think if GTA4 was the flagship game that people could exclusively look forward to opn PS3 then they would be going a lot better.

    I'll be honest I'm not following things all that closely, so I guess mine in just the view of a casual gamer these days.

    Anyway kjeep posting RC, I always enjoy reading what you have to say on games. I come to read your opinions here rather than going to game sites TBH. :cool:
     
  12. Carl Herrera

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    It should run the games, and for the most part just fine if you lower the graphics setting... but there's gonna be a Supreme Commander out there that makes you spend some extra cash to get acceptable performance.

    PC graphics will no doubt far outpace the consoles a few years into the life cycle of the console. So, if you want the latest and greatest graphics at all times, PC games are it. However, the fact is that many games don't care for getting the latest and greatest graphics-- they just want their games to work on their machine without worrying about minimum/recommended specs. If you pick up a Xbox360 or PS3 game, you know it's designed for this set of specs.
     
  13. newplayer

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    Do you have a 64 bit CPU? If you don't, the max amount of RAM your CPU can use is 4GB. Furthermore, even if you have a 64 bit CPU, does your motherboard support more than 4GB of RAM? Most consumer level motherboards only support 4GB of ram.

    Say you have a 64 bit CPU and a motherboard that supports 64bit memory address. Are you sure you can get all your games/software in 64bit mode? If you cannot, then there is no point getting 8GB of RAM.
     
  14. DOMINATOR

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    yes my cpu supports 64. yes my mobo has 4 slots i can put 2GB in each=8GB total. i have vista64.
    only some software supports 64 but just like anything else it will eventually catch up.
     
  15. Angkor Wat

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    LOL, I love it how the "PC owns consoles" guys always make it seem like aiming with a console controller is the hardest thing it the world. "Oh knoes, I can't precisely aim unless I have my trusty mouse and keyboard!!!" C'mon now, it's not that bad. It may not be as easy as aiming with a mouse but it works well.
     
  16. RC Cola

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    Yep. I think Bungie was going through some rough times and only sold themselves because otherwise they would have gone bankrupt.
     

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