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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by smoothie, Jan 3, 2008.

  1. smoothie

    smoothie Jabari Jungle

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    tmac has a negative impact on the role players ability to score the ball.

    the rockets were the only team in the league to NOT have at least 3 players averaging double figures in ponts per game when tmac was playing.

    bonzi has been great since tmacs injury. he can really attack the basket. rafer has really been able to get to the rim and finish with layups, floaters, even hitting hit jumpers.

    the only way tmac will work out in houston is if he decides to work off the ball for shots as the offense requires. when he gets back i hope he realizes that he doesn't need to dominate the ball.
     
  2. Yaozer

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    Correct me if I'm wrong.. but I thought he was SUPPOSED to realize this before the season started when he was talking about "sacrifices". Didn't really work out as planned tho. Everyone always end up standing around when Tmac is on the floor.
     
  3. smoothie

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    because he acts like the judge, jury, and executioner of the offense.

    he wants to bring it up, call the play, and shoot it.

    no one would be standing around watching him if he didn't have the ball in his hands 90% of the time. he should be getting open OFF THE BALL. let rafer hande the ball. he's actually not that bad at being a PG. he looked bad all year with tmac playing PG because rafer isn't a SG. give rafer the ball back, get tmac off the ball and things might make sense.
     
  4. lame_chen

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    I doubt Tmac will change. If anything I think he's gonna come back and feel like he needs to take over the team's ball handling and FG's.. I just hope he doesn't get lackadaisical, hit his shots, and everyone watching will make their shots as well.
     
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    He was talking about the other players (James, Francis) not himself.
     
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    TMac needs to take only 15 shots and make 7 of them. Really is that too much to ask?
     
  8. smoothie

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    it's not about guys just making shots.

    rafer and bonzi need to be able to dive once in a while. tmac will find that wen others are scoring options, the defense mght just loosen up a bit on him. also, once the role players get thier confidence up, THATS when the shots start to fall.
     
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    TMAC is a playmaker who only makes play for himself and other standing still teammates.
     
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    i remembered last last year, Stromile Swift couldn't play due to eye injury ( a bug flew into one of his eyes) :p
     
  11. SuperMarioBro

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    I agree that McGrady doesn't need to dominate the ball as much as he did under JVG, but the reason he was doing that early on this season was because Adelman was going back with what the team was comfortable with while they were learning the offense. I am sure McGrady will be able to adjust pretty easily, seeing as he is one of the most versatile, talented, and well rounded players in the NBA. He already showed signs of that adjustment in a couple games before he left.

    But I think you are underestimating the role he needs to play... He will still need to create for us sometimes. The role players may get a few more baskets when he's not out there, but we all can see what happens to the bottom line when McGrady isn't on the court and healthy... We lose just a little more often...
     
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    so now its t-macs fault that rafer could never finish a damn layup, or make a floater in the lane... :rolleyes:

    we have the dumbest fans in the league, by far
     
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    It depends on how you look at it...in JVG's system T-Mac made EVERYONE better and led a pretty consistent offense despite little talent and playmaking not being his strongest suit.

    Under Adelman, the one thing he has to learn is he does not have to set up all the plays for his teammates. If he is not able to score, he should not force a pass to Hayes or to a 3pt shooter. Instead he can back it out and wait for an off ball cutter like Bonzi to get himself open or for a high post player to come up and reset the offense. But, you cannot look at their success without T-Mac with much certainty as all role players tep up in the wake of their absent superstar.
     
  14. lame_chen

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    what about T-mac !??!?!?!
     
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    yao had a bad game, then you open this thread to bash t-mac. do u really have to do this.
     
  16. Dave_78

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    I'm not a McGrady fan but let's not blame the guy for people missing open shots. If anything, he is guilty of not being able to take a secondary role. I honestly believe it isn't because he does not want to but because he can't.
     
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    I'm still trying to figure how tracy is considered selfish by shooting 20 shots per game. I don't see how the leading asst man every yr since he's been here. I mean bonzi is playing like he was suppose to when he signed last yr. I always said if rafer is cut loose, he's a better player, but tracy makes everyone job easy. Yao shoots sub 40 percent without tracy. I mean tracy sets yao up for 6-8 pts a night on penetration dish offs. it really amazes me about the hate there is on this board for the best player on this team.
     
  18. lame_chen

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    why bad?

    3 stars vs 1 stars...

    rockets have no third scoring point
     
  19. Yaozer

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    I disagree. I think it's more like he doesn't want to AND he can't because nobody else is good enough to take that roll aside from Yao. However I think Yao is not being used anywhere close to his strengths so Tracy will have to take that leading roll for a while until we figure out how to maximize Yao's ability within this new system.

    I'm not expecting anything great this season, not anywhere close, but if Tracy is still here next season I do expect great things. I think 1 season is more than enough for us get used to Adelman's system, which I think isn't too hard to grasp.. just lots and lots of practice and getting used to. If we're anywhere under 5th seed next season I'd be immensely disappointed.
     
  20. Ziggy

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    If T-Mac reverted to the way he played last year- looking for teammates the entire first half and attacking in the 4th... Everything would be great right now. Hell he probably wouldn't even be hurt. If he also focused primarily on defense those first 3 quarters... Then he could regain his position as one of the most devastating forces in basketball.
     

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