Word. Seems like barely any horn fans went to the game cuz that stadum cleared well before the end. I expected a sea of burnt orange, but i guess everyone is pissed about the crummy season. Ball boy incident doesnt mean ****, if anything i wish i was him. Arizona was never in the game and his "touching" the ball had no influence on the final outcome - a blowout win. Must be cool though to be remembered for something as crazy as that and a story you can tell for a long time.
I'm sure that was pretty easy to pull off of the web, but why did you? Not exactly funny to me. They won the game. Even if they didn't, it wouldn't be because of this one play. I know...lighten up, right? What was the point of posting it? Are you gonna harass him? Does he deserve it for making a mistake that most of the sideline made thinking the play was dead? It's almost exactly like the whole Bartman thing in Chicago. Was it his fault they blew the lead in that game and lost game 7? Hell no. Don't be like Chicago.
Lucky for you you're not invested. actually, I know what you mean, since the national championship, it really doesn't matter anymore. considering I was a student during the mackovic years, I never thought I'd see one.
I used to watch every minute of every game, I just can't do that anymore, not for the Longhorns, Rockets, etc. I used to work sideline (not at UT) so from my experience he should not have been on the "mat" (between the 20-25s). I forgot about the equipment guys...they're included. We didn't consider football ops, boosters, former players, and anyone else essential personnel. I had a special pass so the event staff wouldn't stop me from going on the mat but if my boss saw me nepotism wouldn't save my job.
Doesn't change the fact that there was no definitive video evidence that there were more than 11 players on the field?!?!? Ummm ... I don't even need video. Look at post #66 in this thread and I have a definitive picture that shows that clearly. Illegal Participation righ there which is exactly what I said. I even said earlier in the thread that I didn't think the kid touched the ball, but that either way a call had to be made against Texas. Are you one of those fans that don't know how to read? Please learn to read.
I'd love to see a quick video of when that poor poor ASU qb came limping off the field with his sleeve torn and a bloody chin. I don't wish anyone to get hurt, but that was pretty sweet.
Good game, but ESPN was so over blowing the non-touch by the step-son...It was just ridiculous how the whole game was around that play...Then the interview...crazy...
I made an assumption that you, being a referee, understood the issue at hand. AFTER the play, the ruling was he touched the ball. There was no flag on the play against Texas. So inconclusive video evidence was used to manufacture the penalty after the play. Has that ever occurred at any level? Oh, and I think we're probably safe that no on will ever use video replay to determine if players were just over the sidelines, except apparently you. Don't act like stepping over the sideline was some rare occurrence.
But you can not throw a flag after the fact. Going to the replay is to rule on a call made ON THE FIELD, not manufacture one later. 1. They should have not overturned the call as there was not irrefutable evidence the ball was touched. 2. Made up a call AFTER the fact. That crew was awful. DD
Wrong ... 12 men on the field can be called via replay. From http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/preview06/news/story?id=2543105 Again, watch the Minnesota-Washington Sunday night game from last week. Joe Gibbs had a turnover overturned because they determined there were 12 men on the field for the Vikings on defense.
First of all, how many times do I have to tell you that I realize the call that was made was bogus. I don't even think the guy touched it. That said, I still think a penalty should have been called via replay, just not the penalty they called. Stepping onto the field is not a rare occurence ... This I will agree with you on, but based on what I've seen, you are going to see it happen a lot more often as coaches are going to start challenging plays where this happens because of what Joe Gibbs did (at least if they are smart). If a coach challenges that there were 12 men on the field (as Joe Gibbs did) and the ref goes and looks at the replay and some guy on the sideline clearly steps 5' onto the field during the play, the official is going to have NO CHOICE but to call it unless the rule is changed to make that something that is not reviewable because it obviously is right now.
huh? In the quote that you replied to, I basically stated that the call that was made was wrong because the kid either didn't touch the ball or it wasn't conclusive, but that they should have called illegal participation (which is what the call would be for 12 men on the field) which would end up with the same result as what they did call. Did you bother to read what I was even talking about? In other words, the horns didn't get screwed. They got exactly what they deserved.
