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tmac not in graceland

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by denniscd, Dec 27, 2007.

  1. gfab-babyboi

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    Tmac didnt goto Memphis because the game is not on TNT or ESPN and they wont interview him for update doing game :) yes the truth hurts!
     
  2. hermbob

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    At the very least, there's no definite evidence that could dispute this. I'd even go so far as to say that I'm inclined to support this argument...
     
  3. Yao#1

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    So your argument for the reason Tmac not traveling is because he wont be interviewed on national tv is because there is no definite evidence against it. What definite evidence are you looking for? Is ESPN supposed to come out and say they wanted to interview Tmac during this game, but he declined?

    There is also no definite evidence that Yao Ming is not a spy working for the Chinese government whose mission is to spend 15 years in Houston and slowly steal the secrets of NASA. You believe that one too?
     
  4. hermbob

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    First of all, take what I said with a grain of salt. If you think I was actually serious about that comment, or actually care that you think I care that he didn't travel with the team for some reason, then you are mistakened. Please see my previous post in this thread.

    The point I was trying to get across (probably not done well) is that with McGrady, you never know what he's really thinking or what his real motives are.

    And lastly, if we really want to have this stupid conversation...I'm not making or supporting the argument that he didn't travel because he's not going to be interviewed by national media. But if you were to tell me that this game actually was on national TV, and ESPN/TNT had previously contacted him about wanting to do an interview with him inside Fed Ex Forum.....sure, I wouldn't be shocked if he all of a sudden did decide to travel with the team. That is all.
     
  5. Yao#1

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    My point is that everything that Mcgrady does these days is spun into some horrible "I hate the team and only care about myself" interpretation.

    He doesnt travel to Memphis and he suddenly is distancing himself from the team and his teammates. Yet Francis doesnt travel for the whole road trip and he is still considered a warrior with heart who is the missing link to this team's success.

    Mcgrady doesnt return from an ankle sprain against the Sixers and he is suddenly quitting on the team. Yao doesnt return from a facial cut against the Pistons but no one calls him a quitter. Battier busts his face and head all the time and comes back ten minutes later.

    I just think your point that Mcgrady is constantly doing things that make fans question his dedication to his team and teammates only exists because no matter what Tmac does, fans like you spin it to where it can be interpreted that he is anti-Rockets. Thats all I was saying.
     
  6. rofflesaurus

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    T-Mac just doesnt want to go to Memphis. He'd rather spend his time on his Lay-z Boy kicking back while doing Camp Chenawana commercials. :D
     
  7. shipwreck

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    say what you want, nobody but tracy knows if he COULD make the trip. he seems to be consistently aloof when not playing, and never comes back from a locker room injury.

    all i know is lebron would be sitting on the bench. there is no question who the leader of that team is. we still are not sure who OUR leader is and tracy stays home when hurt. put two and two together.
     
  8. Dave_78

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    He DOES have a low threshold for pain. Kobe and KG routinely play through injuries like "inflammation in the knee." Keith Jones has very diplomatically said Tmac was soft when he said some guys can play through it and some cannot when he was asked about Tmac's knee condition (it isn't an injury).

    Are you joking about his exaggerating his injuries? As of a few weeks ago he tried to pass of his elbow sprain as a "torn ligament" until Keith Jones set the record straight on that one as well. I won't even get into this latest MRI fiasco.

    As for the blaming his teammates for losses; do I really need to go through that? Have you not repeatedly heard him talk about imposing his will after a win and after a loss say things like "guys were not making shots" or that he had to do everything offensively. Meanwhile, he shot 7-25 with a variety of pull up, contested 21 footers.

    You know as well as I do everything I said was true. If I need to go back and pull up quotes and examples I will but you damn sure better not disappear if I go through the trouble.
     
  9. ferrarif1286

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    o well he is a distraction to come to the game anyways, might as well rest his ass at home.
     
  10. hermbob

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    See, that's basically yours and 50% of the Rockets fans view of him and his actions. You defend him. I'm personally on the other side of the fence with him because it does appear by all the little things he does or doesn't do that he's disinterested at times, or that he is quitting on his team, or that he's milking certain injuries. But that's not to say I'm right or you're wrong either, but it's ok to admit that his actions and words leave room for fans to see it the way I do, and fans to see it the way you do.

    Go back and read Feigen's blog from the other day. I thought he really did a nice job of summarizing why people view it like I do, and people view it like you do. The bottom line is that he doesn't do one thing to refute EITHER side's opinions. If he ACTED like he cared instead of saying things and doing something else, he would get the benefit of the doubt a lot more, I guarantee it.

    I see your view on the guy, and I appreciate and understand it. I also hope the same is true for you as well. The way the guy acts leaves everything open to interpretation, and that's the basis of why he's so polarizing.
     
  11. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    That's a great observation - because in fact - none of us really knows what kind of leader is in the locker room or how he leads.

    My honest impression is that he simply isn't comfortable being a vocal leader, but because he is so good, it's hard for other players to lead him.

    But at the same time, you don't necessarily need a vocal leader to build a champion. Hakeem was never a loud locker room guy. He just played the game with everything he had.

    To me, the leader of this team isn't t-mac or yao. They are our best players, but we're making a mistake of asking too quiet guys who are awesome at their jobs, but not so good at diplomacy or commanding people - to be the leaders.

    The leader of this team is Shane Battier. It's so clear now. He's the one who is always talking in the quotes about the team, how things are going, the mood of folks, the confidence. He's the leader in the locker room.

    And i'm fine with that.
     
  12. Luckyazn

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    TRACY MCLADY has gots to be the


    SOFTEST SUPERSTAR IN THE NBA!


    He's not a leader ... he's not a winner ....


    he just has GOOD TALENTS and that's it.




    OUT A WEEK because of a BRUISE KNEE?? haha what a JOKE!!!
     
  13. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Some other then him obviously got access to his account or computer - I doubt someone with 4,000 posts and his track record would do that. Someone is having a laugh at us and Saint Louis....he's going to be really mad when he finds out about it I'm sure.

    If there wasn't kids here under 18, it actually would be funny. I actually have to laugh, but it's wrong. Whoever is doing that should stop now and edit out those links because oh man that was so gross! Yuck! Yuck!
     
  14. oneonepyopyo

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    Yeah, agree with you.

    :D
     
  15. ReD_1

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    Simple,he is recovering from knee injury!
    He will come to home games,but away games aren't necessary.
     
  16. ReD_1

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    This statements make me to puke.
     
  17. Yao#1

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    I see your point, but just think Tmac is in such a no win situation.

    He gets criticized for not taking responsibility for winning, yet when he says "Its on me" we bash him for being cocky.

    He gets critcized for not caring yet when he cries in dissapointment after the Utah series he gets bashed for being a soft crybaby.

    I honestly think if he had shown up for the Memphis game and been on the bench, people here would have bashed him for not doing everything he could to recover, and then bashed him for being phony and trying to show he was a leader.
     
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    There is some doubt as to whether he will be at tonights game. If that's the case, its disappointing but the rest of the team should carry on and care whether he plays or not. I would also like to stop seeing them spoon-feed him the ball when his shot is off and start looking for their own shots.
     

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