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  1. Bandwagoner

    Bandwagoner Member

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    Well your bball IQ is quite low if you think you have anything on Brooks, or that hayes needs to be stronger.
     
  2. ChrisBosh

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    So you think Brooks plays good D?.... To be honest I just restated the observation made by the commentators on the Pistons broadcast. I havn;t seen the kid play enough.

    Hayes may be strong relative to his size.....though I doubt he’s on the list of NBA strong men.
     
  3. hatemavs4life

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    And you're kidding yourself if you think Yao is EVER going to be traded.
     
  4. AggieDentist

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    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/featur...2~183~385&teams=27~27~27~10~10&te=&cash=10:27

    worst trade ever?
    or deceptively sly cost-cutting move?

    Washington is gonna possibly lose both Jamison and Arenas to FA this summer, and they need PG help BADLY (they just picked up Mike Wilks). If we can get Mike James to get out of his slump, and can get Tracy to string along 3 weeks of strong, healthy play, we could fool Washington into taking him and throwing in a 1st rounder. We move the ball pretty well with TMac (and Mike James) sitting on the bench, so we may not lose much. And we'd also be under the cap, able to offer a big deal to any of this summer's big FAs.
     
  5. Nitro1118

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  6. Rockets4279

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    Rockets just need a consistant 3rd scorer to take pressure off Yao and McGrady. Someone like Maggette would be awesome, i really like his contract too. Then another point guard who can drain 3's when left open. I like Andre Miller is their anyway Houston can land him because he is one of the best at Aattacking in the lane and creating for others. This would have T-Mac playing off the ball more and scoring on the recieving end of passes.

    A.Miller / Maggette would be the ultimate christmas present ;)
     
  7. M.JamesMan

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    TRADE T-MAC? look at the pistons game, he played almost the least amount of minutes and got almost the most points.
     
  8. Rockets4279

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    T-Mac is supposed to score at the end of the shot clock not when it starts. He is suppose to finish on the recieving end of passes. They dont need him initiating the offense. He does because Rockets dont have anybody else who is good enough to do so. They lack another playmaker. You need atleast 2 on the floor for more easier shots.

    How can we get Maggette? Without giving up T-Mac. The package must revolve around Battier and Francis. L.A is in a dire need of a PG.

    How can we get A.Miller? Then need defense and shooting. Package must revolve around James and Head.
     
  9. vstexas09

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    so scott skiles got fired as coach of the bulls..


    we need to do the same...
     
  10. JayZ750

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    Revolve around. I think you just named the package.

    Battier + Francis for Maggette straight up works.

    Mike James + Luther Head + Snyder for Andre Miller works.

    Final lineup =

    PG: A.Miller, Alston, Brooks
    SG: Maggette, Bonzi, T-Mac
    SF: T-Mac, Bonzi, Maggette
    PF: Hayes, Scola
    C: Yao, Deke

    That's a much better team, and I think the above trades are pretty fair. Wouldn't mind throwing in some future draft picks (protected) to make the deals work.
     
  11. drich

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    last year i got blasted by this board for wanting maggette when the rumor out there was head and alston package was what the clippers wanted for maggette and a throw in. You all were on the kick of thinking luther (blow your) head was a star and i told you all he wasn't **** and that we needed to trade him while his stock was high. The rest of the league was fooled and that is when we should have made the move, the clippers were at war with maggette at the time. everyone said that maggette can not shoot the three well guess what he can score that is what we have been missing for the last 3 or 4 years and what is so sad is the fact that so many people get caught up in the 3 point line that they actually forget about scoring and getting to the basket (except when everyone decides to bash TMAC). the point to basketball is scoring if you can shoot the three GOOD but it is not needed to win basketball games. Jump shooting teams do not win championships people look at the suns and mavericks. The saying of live and die by the three pointer was made for a reason and guess what my friends we are now dying by the three pointer. I wonder why no one ever said live and die by the layup or live and die by the dunk, OH **** BECAUSE IT IS A HIGH PERCENTAGE SHOT. Plus like our friend Calvin used to say "a three pointer the old fashion way" PEACE FELLAS
     
  12. Tommy

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    nice one
     
  13. dizign

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    t-mac/scola for rashard lewis/bogans/arroyo

    win-win for both teams

    magic 5
    nelson, t-mac, hedo, scola, dwight

    houston 5
    brroks, bogans, battier, rashard, yao

    magic will become a deadly half court team
    houston becomes a run and gun team with 3pt bombers to open up yao
     
  14. ferrarif1286

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    this dude makes 19million a year, it would be nice to dump this contract for something even close
     
  15. eMat

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    I disagree. We didn't need him against Denver. We just had to make open shots. Under JVG, we would have a hard time finding a replacement because one person had to do so much. Now that Jeff is gone, if the Rox could get two all-star caliber players (or close to it) for him, I'd say we'd be better off. I believe that the only reason for the difference of our record without Yao and without Mac is that Tracy is the only playmaker we have. Yao obviously cannot initiate the offense.

    And to those saying to trade him for Rashard Lewis, you do know that one day Rashard might have the biggest salary in the NBA? I'd trade him for Ben Wallace before I'd trade him for Rashard...

    IF the Rockets trade him, which they probably won't do, we'd have to trade him for two players (plus throwins). The two superstar tandem is just not good enough. The only guys that could maybe do something along with Yao (LeBron, Wade and Kobe) are untouchable. So we have to get two guys to distribute the talent and the salary. 19 million for one player (who tends to underperform a lot) is too much.
     
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    For manu? a joke?
     
  17. blastaway

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    This is a joke right? :confused: :eek: :rolleyes:
     
  18. blastaway

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    I personally don't think it is time to trade Tmac since we can't package him and get Kobe. With that said, I think we have a better chance at winning a championship with Tmac than we do by trading him.

    If we traded him, we would have an even newer group of players that have to learn a new system, learn each other and learn to play together. That would mean another two years before realistically contending, assuming you would get the right players to do it. That is not the answer to me.

    What we need to do is get the best player we can by trading from the following players:

    Wafer, Battier, Chuck, Mike, Luther, and Novak.

    Those are the players that we should use as trade bait. If we traded Bonzi or Scola, we would be messing up what we need to contend with whatever players we get back. In the playoffs, next to Yao and Tracy, these will be out two next most important players for success.

    Trading Steve doesn't make sense since we got him for so cheap and he probably doesn't hold much trade value right now anyway. So the hope that he will return to useable form is worth more than you can get by trading him.

    I wouldn't trade AB because no matter who we get for point guard, we will need a good backup. Unless trading him brought in a legit All star point guard, I wouldn't do it because he would definitely be giving me 15-20 minutes a game off the bench if we got a better point guard to start to come here.

    We need to get a legit 6'10" or taller backup Center to take some pressure off of Yao for 15 minutes a game. Scola and Chuck are not the ones to do it. And Deke is only good for it against a few teams. Webber is still the best option that I know, but hopefully someone else is out there. What happened to the dude we cut, Butler? Was he really that bad?

    Obviously we still need and want better point guard play. I think we keep Aaron and Steve for the reasons already mentioned, but if we can get anyone else, I say trade all the rest. Mike may get his shooting touch back, but that won't help him to be a point guard. He has no clue how to run a team and is more of a shooting guard than Steve and Luther are. Luther at point is a joke at best. We have to find a trade to help us here. We have the pieces from the players mentioned above to get the job done.

    Most of all, ADELMAN JUST NEED TO CHANGE THE FREAKING STARTING LINEUP! :mad:
     
  19. tresimecgredi

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    Are you a magic fan? I will trade T-Mac only if in change I have a top playmaker
     
  20. AggieDentist

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    while reading Eddie Johnson's blog, i found an enjoyable comment (by a poster named "mattb") similar to your trade idea:

    http://hoopshype.com/blogs/johnson/index.php/2007/12/24/why-skiles-got-canned/#comment-6713
     

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