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Magic just said one of them had to go! Now it becomes national...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by waihh, Dec 20, 2007.

  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Yeah, what does he know, he only won several championships and knows how to play winning TEAM basketball....but screw him. he don't know squat...right?

    DD
     
  2. Sextuple Double

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    The basketball knowledge of most Rockets fans has been revealed here, and it is barely mediocre at best.

    Just about little to nobody understands:

    Denver is one of the worst if not THE WORST defensive team in the league, almost any offense looks like a well oiled machine against them.

    We are 11-infinitillion without T-Mac, and its not getting any better.

    Nobody we get will have any impact close to what T-Mac does in a trade scenario. Yao needs someone to take pressure off him, and the only other players in the league capable of that outside T-Mac aren't going anywhere. And last I heard is that Kobe wants to stay in LA.

    We DO NOT have the personnel to run the offense to perfection, and it would be better if Adelman tweaked a few things rather than changing the whole landscape.

    T-Mac cannot switch bodies like Agent Smith from the matrix and shoot for them when they're ALL ALONE.

    Our best bet to make a line-up tweak would be somehow getting Antoine Walker. He can do everything offensively and is certainly capable of getting shots for others and is a proven scorer from anywhere(including 4pt territory) on the court. He'd be a perfect fit.

    Our shots are simply not falling, the majority of shots we brick are WIDE OPEN AND UNCONTESTED. Shane, Skip, MJ, and Luther Head are not shooting at the clip they usually do.
     
  3. doublebogey

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    Next time Magic will say the Rockets should trade Yao for a package of Brown + Bynum and the Rockets should listen. LOL!
     
  4. tinman

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    Dude,
    I already told you why this is happening.
    When people on this board dis on Kenny Smith (the best 3point % in Houston Rockets history) they get negative karma on the team, they can't hit an open jumper

    When people dis Barkley, a legendary rebounder, the Rockets can't out rebound the Golden States of the league.

    When people dis on Maxwell, nobody hits a game winning shot.

    Its obvious that the gods are using collective punishment on us. And that's just the Rocket gods. now people are dissing magic johnson, the NBA gods will doom us! :mad:
     
  5. jondoe

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    as we have seen against denver, the role players aren't too bad. Luther Head, Bonzi, Brooks, and rafer can score. Luther Head actually surprised me with the pick and roll. He is not Tmac, but with Tmac in the game, everyone becomes one dimensional because he dominates the ball and dominates the pick and roll. Luther Head becomes a spot up shooter. Rafer only a spot up shooter. Bonzi some Iso's, but doesn't touch the ball as much with Tmac in.
    What happens is what has happened since Tmac has been a Rocket....role players drop in statistical average. Study that! When you don't touch the ball, it is difficult to suddenly shoot a three when you have been standing around ready to shoot. If you noticed, Yao doesn't look as confused when Tmac is out...you know why? Because Tmac is always doing his own thing, calling for pick and rolls for himself instead of running the offense. I'm not saying Tmac is a bad player, in fact, he is a great individual player. But who besides Yao has ever been a great offensive compliment to Tmac since he became a superstar? No one because he dominates the offense and everyone else has to play off of him. Why do all the statistics in the role players drop when they play for Rox? I give Tmac credit, he can carry a team with h9s scoring as he has shown last year, but it won't win you a championship.
     
  6. rocketsmetalspd

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    I wish the Rocket's would make their decision before the end of the year. If they keep waiting for the February deadline they take a chance of T-Mac getting hurt or it will be too late to try to get into the playoffs.
     
  7. dizign

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    trade t-mac, battier, scola for rashard and turkoglu, keith bogans, arroyo

    or

    t-mac, battier, scola for diaw, marion, barbosa
     
  8. jerm2010

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    T-mac hasnt played like crap all season

    Just like the last 5 games since hes been in pain and all

    DUHHH

    We will see how we finish the season but

    Ya one or more rockets might have to go
     
  9. jerm2010

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    One player doesnt win a championship..

    It takes a T-E-A-M
     
  10. JimRaynor55

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    You almost couldn't be further from the truth. According to KnickerBlogger.net, Denver is #2 in defensive efficiency (points allowed per possession) this season. Last season, they were #11.

    The reason their ppg allowed is high is because they have the fastest pace in the league.
     
  11. Easy

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    How many championship has he won as a GM or a coach? If he knows how to build a winning team, why the heck is he not the Lakers' GM, given his status in the organization?
     
  12. Angkor Wat

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    Agreed. There is a huge difference between winning championships as a player and winning as a Coach or GM. HUGE difference. Just because he was a successful player, doesn't mean it will translate over to the other aspects of the game. Look at Jordan, arguably one of the Greatest of All-Time, has done jack **** from the Front Office position. Case in point, it does not matter how good of a player he was when he played. There's better coaches and GMs that never scratched the surface to what Magic did as a payer. Just like there are some good players that turn into good coaches or GMs.
     
  13. DaDakota

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    But we are not asking him to be the GM....he is stating his BASKETBALL opinion.....

    He did not say ''Trade Tmac for player X".....he just said it wasn't working from a basketball standpoint.

    Now, it is up to the GM to mix and match the parts to get better as a team.

    It is possible to trade away individual talent for lesser players, and still get better as a team.

    That is what a good GM does.

    DD
     
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    this is true....A.I. let Luther go left on him.........I barely see Luther dribble with his left hand, let alone go by someone to the basket to score..............with that being said................tmac still needs to go.
     
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    That's not what I see on the court. What I see is a team that relies solely on Marcus Camby to get every rebound(or a hand on it) and contest every shot. A team that only gambles in the passing lanes. With the exception of Najera and Klieza, all the others just let their man blow right pass them all the time and Camby must help.

    Note how they couldn't get a defensive stop against us at all in the 4th qtr and both overtimes. If we grabbed some defensive rebounds instead of giving them multiple chances on tap-outs, we wouldn't be seeing half the stupid threads on this board today. Yao could've had a possible 30/30 game.
     
  16. edlove75

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    What are u watching!!! That was the most we've moved the ball.. :confused: We were not moving the ball when we were 6-1, we should have lost half of those games. Now we are being exposed over and over again. The world is wrong and rockets fans are right huh??? Please..... we suck and our role players suck!!! Anyone can see this! The stats don't lie! We have bit by bit mishandled this franchise! 1997-present, our rockets management has consistantly gave up good players through drafts and trades! We are still being affected by those bad decisions of our past. It's not like.
    It's not like NFL football where there are 13 rounds. A bad decision won't affect you, because there is always a diamond in the rough. But in the NBA, if you make a bad draft or trade it will have a affect on the team for 5-10 yrs......... That is what's happening to us. Now we are trying to put makeshift pieces together to overcome the hurt from our past.
    Richard Jefferson, Collins, Najera, Nachbar, Cassell,Horry, Gaye etc...... how many can you add to this list of bad decisions by our rockets management. When will the hurt from our past sins end???????????????????? :(
     
  17. durvasa

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    Denver does gamble a lot, and they are not a strong defensive rebounding team (they leak out for transition opportunities). These are usually the characteristics of a poor defensive team. But in terms of getting stops and limiting points scored per possession, they've been one of the best. Ultimately, that's all that matters for a defense.
     
  18. MiniMing

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    LOL, so what. When was this, in the 80s? It's 2007 now, I think things are a little different.

    Act like we all have to give respect to what he says, just cause he's won ****. Who cares. Guy is a idiot.
     
  19. MiniMing

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    Yeah exactly, he doesn't know squat. Who cares if he won all those things, this was all in the 80s. Does that mean everyone who's been on a Championship team knows how to be a GM and build a team.
     
  20. tinman

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    Yeah, I guess Magic doesn't know anything about winning and the 80s weren't a good decade for basketball.. that's why the players that came out of the 80s dominated the 90s. Jordan, Dream, Malone, etc
     

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