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Tmac trade that just became available.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by trugoy, Dec 21, 2007.

  1. hatemavs4life

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    Honestly, I think Paul Allen would have an aneurysm if Patterson did this ...
    A trade like that would once again hamstring the Blazers and sour their populace. Personally would want Jarrett Jack instead of either (Przybilla, Lafrentz) if we're gonna give them Aaron Brooks.

    Don't think the Blazers would ever do this trade sane and sober. :D
     
  2. krnxsnoopy

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    Well unless you get Kobe, Arenas, you won't get fair return. Atleast in this scenario you get 3 quality players (possibly two starters) and more importantly YOUTH. Youth that can ACTUALLY PLAY. The Rockets are quickly becoming one of the oldest in the league. Tmac has two years on his contract and he's not getting any better. Either we let Tmac go for nothing, or we hold onto a declining Tmac. Either way lose-lose situation. I don't think its wise to ATLEAST start considering other options.
     
  3. gxgf

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    T-Mac = chemistry killer+ flimsy excuse owner
    Jazz is a title contender, not a rebuilding team, ok?
    Let's hope, team NEW YORK, the awsome GM Isiah will offer us a great deal,
    ex. Jamal Crawford+Zach Randolph= T-Mac
     
  4. henrock

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    So essentially you will be trading TMAC for someone who has similar shooting percentages, less points, rebounds, steals and assists, but is a better free throw shooter? Not to mention he is way smaller than TMAC. Gordon is a good scorer but he isn't a passer. He has hit 6 assists 3 times this year and 9 is his career best.
     
  5. firefive

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    it impossible. i don't think there will be a trade including yao or T-mac.
     
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    If you do let Tmac go for "nothing", you can get 20 million in cap space to sign a great all-star.
     
  7. DaDakota

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    No kidding, I would almost trade Tmac for Roy heads up....

    DD
     
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    I would do that in a heartbeat, a good, young, soon-to-be a 25 ppg 8 assist 6 rebound type of player.
     
  9. trugoy

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    Your trade advocates trading T-Mac. Your trade will not work. Here is why it won't work. (one or more of the following may apply to your particular trade, and it may have other flaws not listed below.)

    ( ) Team receiving T-MAC is rebuilding and want expiring contracts and/or draft picks
    (x) No team will build around injury prone T-MAC as the best player on their team
    (x) The players you are trading for have a higher value that T-MAC
    (x) You overvalue T-Mac's trade value
    (x) You undervalue the trade value of the young player on a rookie contract with high potential
    ( ) You think that mike James has positive trade value
    ( ) You overvalue Shane Battier's trade value

    Specifically your trade fails to account for

    (x) No Team will trade their best player for T-Mac
    ( ) Team has a better player than T-MAc at that position already
    ( ) Trade is not possible because of CBA restrictions
    ( ) Team is rebuilding therefore would have no need for T-MAC
    ( ) The Team will actually be worse off after this trade
    ( ) Gilbert Arenas has a higher trade value than T-MAc, therefore washington will not even trade them straightup
    ( ) If New Jersey is trading Jason Kidd, that means they are rebuilding, therefore they would want expiring contracts/young players/draft picks
    ( ) Kobe/Lebron/Carmelo/ Any other player that is the best player on their team has a higher trade value that Tmac


    Furthermore, this is what I think about you:

    (x) Sorry dude, but I don't think it would work.
    ( ) This is a stupid trade, and you're a stupid person for suggesting it.
    ( ) I'm going to find out where you live and burn your house down!
     
  10. trugoy

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    Yes he will, sloan is basically itching to get rid of AK, it's jazz Gm oconnor that does not want to trade AK, if you present a trade scenario that does not involve deron or boozer, utah has a high probability of doing it.

    You could ask for millsap, brewer and cj miles and offload mike james and steve francis.

    I think it's the most realistic tmac trade available, everything else mentioned is basically pipe dreaming.
     
  11. prv1981

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    He does not play the same position as TMac. Gordon was a PG in college. He has PG ball handling but a 2 guard scoring ability. Do not compare Tracy with Gordon because it isnt relevant. When you look to trade Tracy you cannot think of getting the same level of production in return from one player. His contract makes it nearly impossible to trade him straight up for another player. Keep in mind that in my post I am talking of an ideal situation in which we can get in return exactly what I feel the Rox would benefit from. Gordon has been in the league less years and this season his numbers are really low in comparison to his previous seasons. Right now Gordon is better than Tracy playing off the ball not to mention he has better full court ball handling skills. I am not saying that Gordon will be better alone for the Rox than Tracy. What I am saying is that if the Rox could get Thomas and Gordon for McGrady one way or another it would be pretty freaking sweet. Gordon would provide a scoring dynamic that McGrady to this point has not been able to provide to RA offense.
     
  12. trugoy

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    Morey better do this trade quick, before millsap becomes so good that he becomes untoucheable.

    To all the fans with blinkers on, in 3 years time when millsap becomes the next mcdyess, i'll be telling you i told you so.
     
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    so exciting change!
     
  14. locus

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    poor T-mac
     
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    Yes,Tmac=Artest+Bibby,that's an ideal trade...Old kings come back! I prefer this trade could happen,but it seems not easy
     
  16. hatemavs4life

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    You know last year and even early this season if you made this suggestion, I would say "you're on crack!" But you know he's the ONE we really wanted in the draft last year. I still suggest we send about 7 bottles of Johnnie Walker black label plus, some Everclear, sprinkle in some herb based brownies :D to boot to solidify the deal! :D

    Seriously, I like this deal because Roy looks like he's gonna be a baller from hell and frankly, much to my chagrin, it appears this team has REAL chemistry issues. Other than inconsistency with supporting cast scoring, T-Mac though at his best FG% I'm beginning to wonder if he has the want to, the desire to be a champion ?!? I mean hey it's a fair question. Yao is pissed off and T-Mac seems kind of aloof and I don't like that. I like T-Mac but, ... something has got to give and soon or else ... this season of promise and redemption is LOST! :mad:
     
  17. henrock

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    I'm not saying Gordon isn't a good player but he doesn't provide anything that McGrady doesn't other than ft shooting. He is playing at roughly his career averages this year and his highest scoring season was 21 pts/gm.

    He was not a pg in college because Taliek Brown was the pg for UConn. I watched all of the UConn games when Gordon was in college 'cause I went to school there the same time he was there. True, he has a good handle, but so does Rafer. If Gordon can change his ways to be a real pg then he would be a good fit but right now he isn't one at all because Hinrich and Duhon handle the passing and in college Brown did. I'm just worried he would dominate the ball like TMAC.
     
  18. krnxsnoopy

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    No hell no,

    No Gordon.. I'd rather have Tmac than Gordon.
     
  19. Seth

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    Mcgrady, Snyder, James to Jazz for

    Millsap, kirilenko, giricek, harpring.


    .. are you out of your mind?

    that is HORRIBLE for the rockets..

    .. my opinion.. package up mike james and bonzi wells for andre miller

    PG problems = solved
     

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