ClutchFans Game Thread: Magic @ Rockets 12/19/2007

I think a doctor already looked at it according to what was I read in some articles.

Is that not enough for you?

What do you want them to do? Send you copies of the MRI results? Post them on ClutchFans?

Why don't you ask McGrady to let you go to the doctor with him so he can prove it to you?

 

Don't hope too much because not much will happen this season.

Even if Morey makes a move or two, this team can not be transformed into a contender this year.

Unless you meant something else by "recover this season"...

 

I am not saying there is no point in you talking about anything. I never said that and I never will but feel free to interpret things to your liking in the future.

 

Howard can't really dominate Yao; but that's just matchups. there really isn't anyone except Shaq, who can dominate Yao. Yao doesn't really matchup well against KG either, although they rarely guard each other. the real question is why doesn't Yao dominate every other center he plays against? Dwight Howard does. that's the difference between the two. Howard's leading the league in rebounding at 15+, second in the league in field goal percentage at 60+%, and third in the league in blocked shots (2.7). Howard only takes 13.2 shots per game, but scores 23.6 ppg. Yao takes 15.8, but scores 21.8. some people compare Howard to Amare, but i think he's more like a young Shaq, but he has the physical tools to play defense like Dream minus the steals. he even shoots free throws at a Shaq-like rate. considering that he goes to the line 12.1 times a game (an indicator of dominance or ref-bias to the cynical), if he shot them like Yao, he'd be around 27 ppg. and he's far from his peak. even now, he's still younger than Yao was when he first entered the league at 22 years old. he's durable too, not having missed a single game into his fourth season. he could easily play another 12 years at a very high level. Yao just seems to have a different mentality that frustrates so many Rockets' fans. it pains me to say it, but as things are currently, i would trade Yao for Dwight straight up; and i think T-Mac would play better off Dwight than Yao; although Adelman probably would have no idea how to use him.

 

I'd be willing to bet McGrady's got some damage and will need the knee scoped. We're staring at March or possibly later before he could even think about coming back if that's the case.

 

JVG allows him to shoot those many jumpers? You must me kidding me!

I don't want to argue with you. I don't care if you're Yao fan as long as you're a rox fan. I just want to stand up for the big guy after he played hard with heart. You should blame the loss to the coach rather than YAO.

 

yeah, just wishful thinking on my part, as well as everybody here I assume...

 

complaining that Yao played over 40 minutes for a BIG game??
The ONLY freakin guy on the team that has a chance of hitting consistent shots?

another one of those days where 9 out of 10 posts are just about saying something in a message board just cuz they can. time to hit the bbs hangout

 

Guys, chill. We don't need to attack each other over a Rockets game. I wish the player had as much passion as the posters ....

 

If I was comparing Howard to Shaq and Amare, I would say he some sort of hybrid of the two.

He has an inside game and superior rebound skills along with the agility and athleticism of Amare.

That is a pretty freaky combo. Imagine if Dwight develops a mid-range game. If that ever happens, he will own the league like nobody has ever seen.

 

I don't interpret. I was talking about the bad call, you just asked me what my point was and what I was going to do about it, with a very nice attitude.

This is the game thread, I don't know what the point of this thread is, at all.

 

Agreed.

 

There are some pretty cynical posts here. I actually saw some good things.

Positives:
-Good defense
-We saw the fast break a few times (at least more than previous games)
-Effort was there
-Balanced scoring
-We EXECUTED plays well

The one Negative:
-We couldn't FINISH plays i.e. make the open shot
-Also, Tmac looked completely out of it (but wanna ignore that for now)

I actually saw better fluidity in the offense. There were less turnovers, less holding on to the ball, less one-on-one, the Rocket players were reacting quicker on offense, and seemed to be sure of when to shoot the ball. The only thing left for this team to do is make their shots.

 

You just answered your own question.



Sorry, too tempting...

 

Personally I think that play could be the turning point of the game. The rockets was within 4-6 points and if the referees had called correctly it would put Dwight Howard into foul trouble. After that call, Yao shy away from contacts and that's the end of the game!

 

good points, except the trade part. I really do believe it's due to the new system. He just looks confused out there, like he doesn't want to shoot and rather get his teammates involved. I think he functions better with a robot mentality that tells him to just score when he gets the ball instead of improvising, which is what Adelman wants him to do.

 

Sure, the bad call wasn't in the game. But the rules change and comparison of Shaq and Amare were what actually that game was about.

In the end, I got the message, you control what can be said what not, tempting Master.

 

I don't think I ever blamed Yao for the loss. Find the quote where I blame Yao for the loss....

I would say the loss is due to poor FTs, missed layups, and TMac chucking cost us. Yao was tentative after the first quarter which didn't help. We missed a whole bunch of open looks which didn't help.

We should have had a 20 point lead early in the game but it was barely double digits.

 

Fair enough, these are some good point.

I think the problem is that many fans are still getting over the high expectations coming into the season.

It is hard to accept the "looking for positives" attitude game after game but the reality is that we need to start getting used to it.

 

It was a bad call but not the turning point of the game.

The missed shots, the defensive lapses (there were countless uncontested layups in the 2nd half) and broken plays down the stretch had much more to do with this loss.

In my opinion, no McGrady is a bad thing too, even when he is not making shots.

No McGrady hurts a LOT more than no Yao as evidence by the statistics over the last 4 years. Good game or bad game, Mcgrady makes a difference more than any other player on this team.