ClutchFans Game Thread: Magic @ Rockets 12/19/2007

You are right but Adelman's only other choices are an old Deke and an undersized foul machine named Scola that also backs up Chuck Hayes.

I think Adelman would be more than willing to cut Yao's minutes back if he had other options.

But with Mac out and the factors mentioned above, I can see why Adelman played Yao for 40+ minutes tonight.

 

Seems like you're the only guy who cares...after all your bad comment on YAO including this one...

 

What a joke! Were "JVG after effects" responsible for the 6-1 start or are they only responsible for the 6-12 implosion since then? People like you are amazing.

 

Remember that first play of the game where Yao came off two screens for a wide open look and he canned it? Where was that play the rest of the game? I know the defence adjusts, but I'd like to see more of those kind of plays.

 

I agree. Without Tmac in the game, Yao has to play big minutes. That's the responsibility he has to take. He has to bite his teeth and go through it without any other options.

 

I think that is a good call.

The refs don't have it out for Yao despite the common myth.

If the ref on the baseline made that call, he very likely didn't see the arms tangled and assumed you was shoving Howard.

 

What I mean is that northeastfan made a good call.

 

I'm a huge Yao fan, not a blind Yao fan. And yes, I have seen him miss a lot of jumpers when he played for JVG. I've seen him miss tons of jumpers when he's fresh, I've seen him miss tons of jumpers when he is tired. That's the nature of an outside shot especially one that is falling away from the basket. A much higher percentage shot is a dunk. That's why Shaq in the past and now Howard have much higher shooting percentages.

But, please. A bad shot is a bad shot. It doesn't matter if Yao takes it or TMac takes it or Rafer takes it. It is still a bad shot. In fact it doesn't matter if it goes in or not it is still a bad shot. Yao took his fair share of bad shots tonight.

Did Yao outplay Howard? It is hard to say. I would say no, but others disagree. The bottom line is a L and I'm sure both Yao and Howard would say the same thing ... the game result is what really matters.

 

either fire coach or trade TMAC,i dont see anything else we can do to get better

 

Agree. The lack of a backup C is a real hole on this squad. Remember those super hacks by Magloire a few games back? Hello, broken wrist! I cringe every time I see 3rd stringers hack away at Yao. Just put Deke in to take some of that punishment. He's gonna' retire in 5 years anyway.

 

Yao fell down, but the ref assumed Yao was shoving Howard? Like I said, refs are human. Maybe he didn't see or didn't see clearly what Howard did. But after Yao fell, what made him decide that's a foul on Yao?

 

Thanks, I wouldn't call myself amazing but....

Anyways, what I am saying is that after several years of playing such a deliberate half-court offense that lacked creativity and a lot of movement, the players are going through a considerable adjustment.

The Rockets' coaches and many experts have drawn the same conclusion.

It amazes me that I amaze you, by the way. Amazingly, that is an amazing fact.

 

I am not sure but I think northeastfan offered a plausible explanation.

 

The most bizarre thing about the call is that Yao had his hands up in the air before the call was made. Then Howard threw Yao to the ground!

 

The "plausible explanation" was about why refs didn't see Howard's foul, and I haven't figured out how that translated to Yao's foul. Yao was the one fell down, it's fine they DID NOT SEE, but it's not fine they just called a foul on Yao out of blue, AFTER HE FELL DOWN.

 

that was another unbelievably poor shooting night.

I didn't think Brooks played poorly enough to not be brought back into the game after his 5 minute stint. He would have racked up 2 pretty sweet assists if Hayes or TMac could've hit point blank layups.

There did seem to be a lot more motion in our offense in the 2nd half, but no one could hit ANYTHING! How can traditionally good, professional shooters become such poor marksmen?

We also gave up what seemed like 4 layups in a row in the 3rd quarter, which was right before we refocused and started to playing with effort the rest of the way through the game.

TMac needs to get an MRI ASAP to dispell these 'faking it' rumors. It'd be in his best interest... because after his Philly 2nd half sit-down act after his slight ankle sprain he's definitely lost some credibility with me as a team player [especially when I think about his past with Orlando when he publicly acknowledged that he quit on the team]. If the MRI shows something, then I stand corrected.

 

So, what is your point? What are you going to do about it?

It was a bad call. The game goes on. The season goes on.

 

I was afraid of this when Morey made all those off-season moves because our team looks good on paper but not very good on the court. I read somewhere that Colangelo looks more at player types and how well they deal with pressure, bball IQ, team player, etc. more than just stats. I hope Morey can recover this season by getting players with skill but as well as character, so we don't have this quitting attitude.

 

If refs are gonna' make calls that bad, then they don't even need to be on the court. Just have some guys watching it on TV and making calls over the loudspeaker. And shouldn't there be an age limit? Guys like the guy that raced Barkley should NOT be still allowed to ref. He's supposed to keep up with guys like Iverson, not Barkley, fer' Chrissakes!

 

I can't do a damn thing, so I am sitting in front of my computer and posting on a message board, instead of going to the league office and fire those refs.

If you say there is no point for me to talk about anything, since the season goes on, maybe you could suggest Clutch to ban me or close the site.