ClutchFans Game Thread: Magic @ Rockets 12/19/2007

we just need a brain ,tamc is so dispointed
the truth proves he is not a leader,
just a fragile man with fragile ego,

YAO is not the leader ,truth proved.
yao is a good teammate,a scoreing robot,
but this can't lead us getting success

we need a brain ,and we can find the brain where it is
I guess it was in nets!

 

We were also 6-7 earlier this season.

This wasn't the first time and it won't be the last, assuming we ever get back over .500 again. I wouldn't be surprised if that never happens.

 

We need more than a brain. We need several new players and time to adapt to Adelman's system, assuming he doesn't quit or get fired first.

 

I wasn't talking about your post in that dominance reference, just generally the talk around this game thread and those ones in NBA Dish. I think it's fine some Rockets fans would rather to take Howard over Yao, although I wouldn't. I really want to see just for once, one season, that our players shooting good 40% from the field from those open shots. I keep wondering how much damage Yao would put on the opponents, if they have to take their poisons. Maybe then Yao could bring you more of what you expect out of a big man as well.

 

Lighten up son.

 

The team needs to just start free-stroking, don't even think about it. They appear to be pressing and look very tight. Just play. Whether a team is winning or losing, they can play for fun. If they would just give it all, show some intensity like they did toward the end of the game, they might actually start winning. The high expectations of this team just created too much pressure. Since they are now just an "ordinary" lotto-bound team, they need to "cut it loose." Play the youngsters, free-stroke, and just play.

 

Pretty much. Howard does things better than Yao that you want out of your big man. Scoring is nice, but you want a big to be able to rebound, block shots, and move around on defense. Howard does all of those things better than Yao. Yao is a terrific offensive player with a lot of skill, but Howard can score his fair share by simply being so big, athletic, and quick. He runs the floor better than any big in the league, and opens up so much on offense because of the space he creates down low.

Just because someone like Howard more than Yao doesn't mean they think Yao is a stiff. I love Yao, but would I prefer Howard? Yes.

 

The only way Yao becomes a dominant big man is if the team he plays on deploys a half-court offense. Very few teams do that anymore.

The rules have changed and the types of players in the league have changed. Big men like Yao and Shaq will never be able to dominate the way they used to.

The prototype of today's big men are the Boozers, Stoudemires and Howards. These guys can play inside but also have the speed and athelticism to get up and down the court.

Yao will never be able to do that. He came to the league a decade too late.

 

You got it, girl!

 

i'd love to hear the explanation on how howard throws down yao right in front of the ref and he calls it on yao. it's stuff like that makes the NBA a pile of horse ****. honestly if it wasn't for the rockets i wouldn't watch basketball and that wasn't the case 10 years ago.

 

I am feeling this idea.

Part of those symptoms are JVG after effects.

The Rockets will probably be entering a rebuilding mode over the next couple of years. They might as well loosen up and forget the Yao-based, inflated expectations.

 

Not really the rules have changed, but rather the refs aren't officiating according to the rules any more, in the paint.

 

I mean he should top out at 38 minutes every game, unless he's in foul trouble. Yao doesn't need to go 43-44 minutes in any game, 'cept in the playoffs. It's just not necessary. A few extra minutes playing time in the 1st or 2nd quarters are meaningless with a guy like Yao, especially battling a nobody like Foyle. That's just a drain and serves no purpose whatsoever. ****, in tonight's game, with Foyle, they didn't even go to him to take advantage of that matchup, so what's the point? NBA games are won in the last 7-8 minutes of the 4th Q with your best players on the floor. You can be down 16+ points at that stage and still come back to win - happens all the time. It's imperative that Yao be as fresh and strong as possible for that stretch. If he's already played 35 minutes by that stage, he just won't have the juice to be as effective as he can be when he's fresh.

 

Why all this talk about Howard vs Yao? The problem is with the Rockets...I don't see a solution in sight...I keep hoping to wake up the next day and finding out a trade has been made...but then nothing happens and we lose again...

 

I'm sure Ronnie Nunn (Numbskull) will explain us how Yao fouled Howard. I thought tonight's game was generally officiated pretty well except that call was horrifying. The only explanation I can offer is that Howard had his left arm wrapped around Yao's waist and the official who called the foul couldn't see Howard's hold because he was behind Howard.

 

A huge YAO fan never abuse him after he put his heart in the game and carried the team to the end. I hope you're just upset about the loss as every rox fan to give an biased comment to compare YAO and Howard.

We should judge a player based on the contribution he did to the game rather than personal performance. It's unfair to blame YAO for attempting more rangers after he had a bad shooting night. You should know that he could've hit more shots if he hadn't been overused by Aldeman. Let's face it, have you ever seen him missed so many jumpers before in any game? Fatigue simply beat him after he struggled from a bunch of defenders all over him and try to create opportunities to his teammate.

YAO might not be the best center in the league but he did outplayed Howard in this game. If you watched the game, How many times did you see YAO owned Howard on one-on-one defense at the beginning of the game? Howard just can't guard him by himself. That's why YAO is wrapped by defenders every time he dribbled and forced to pass the ball. On the other end, Howard barely got doubled in the game and all the shots he made is on the second half when he got enough rest but YAO had been used like a horse. YAO played 43 minutes!

 

Exactly. Who cares that Howard is better than Yao. We've got Yao and we are losing game after game after game.

 

Actually, yes really.

The rules have changed dramatically over the few years.

I may be off slightly, but two of the changes were allowing double teams on big men as well as not allowing perimeter defenders to put even one hand on their opponent.

Both of these changes shifted the focus away from big men to perimeter players.

 

Why are we calling our star players names now?

"Tracie", "the big stiff", I found that extremely offensive.

Am I still on a Rockets board?

 

he didn't see or didn't see it clearly, but why did he call a foul on Yao, who was one down? It just boggles me.