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Pettitte admits using HGH

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by htownbball, Dec 15, 2007.

  1. htownbball

    htownbball Member

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    Didn't see a thread here yet...
     
  2. home_vc

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    I wonder if Pettite and Clemens will still be best friends. :D Clemens must be pissed that Andy came forward as the two will be linked together.
     
  3. Bobblehead

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    Kudos to Andy for coming forward and having the balls to admit he used....unlike his old fat buddy Roger.
     
  4. BigSherv

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    Andy said he used it to heal.

    At least he is being honest.
     
  5. rrj_gamz

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    I do give credit for coming out...Well, we all know he's ghey... Not that there's anything wrong with that... :D

    People tend to forget and forgive for those that repent...

    Cheater
     
  6. Blake

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    Good for Andy for coming clean. If what he says is true, I don't think it's a big deal
     
  7. Fegwu

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    How do you know he is now honest?

    I think 'honest' is too strong a word to use here.

    I am not sure why he has decided to admit this now. I wonder if he will retire (has he announced this in this regard)?

    Baseball as a whole is just soiled. Interesting I still love it more than say the NFL. I willing to move on - so long as MLB and MLB Players Union come together and clean things up include "greenies" and every other "substance" that is on the banned list.

    P.S. I will welcome Andy back to our team if he wants to come back for one or two more years.
     
  8. Raven

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    I have no respect for athletes who juice, but I hate the way the media is lording it over these players like they are judge, jury, and executioner.

    That's why it was a real relief to read Richard Justice's blog entry on this, since I knew his permission was needed before I could "forgive" Andy.
     
  9. MadMax

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    It's an absolute joke.
     
  10. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Pettitte just re-signed with the Yankees for the 16 million he was due to get had he taken the player option. There was one poster who implied Pettitte was a class act for living up to his word and declining the player option, even though it was well known that he could re-sign for the same amount.

    Interesting that he re-signed the day before the Mitchell report was released.
     
  11. codell

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    Just like it was interesting that the Orioles finally pulled the trigger on the Tejada trade. The timing of it makes it look like they knew something the Astros didn't.
     
  12. tulexan

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    I doubt that he only used HGH twice and felt really bad about it. This sounds just like "I smoked weed but I didn't inhale".
     
  13. Major

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    To be fair, it does fit the Mitchell Report findings - now, he might only have admitted to whatever's in there, but the trainer says that he injected Pettitte a couple of times. Clemens, on the other hand, supposedly used for many years from the report.
     
  14. tulexan

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    I guess, maybe I'm just skeptical from everything that has come out and am positive that this report is only the tip of the iceberg.
     
  15. Fegwu

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    I feel the same way. As a fan, my selfish side says lets move on quickly and put this behind us but I fear/sense that more trouble could be on the way.

    The last thing we need now is Baseball losing its value due to things like these ala Italian Premier Soccer league's trust issues as a result of match fixing. How many comebacks does baseball have itself?

    Thanks Bobrek for the update on Andy.
     
  16. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    I believe there was actually a reason for the Astros to finalize the deal that day. I think they had to make a decision on Everett before the Mitchell report came out.
     
  17. Dave_78

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    If he only injected 2-4 times then he is an idiot because not only did he officially become a "juicer" to the public and the media but he never he used HGH long enough to get any benefit.

    Moron.
     
  18. Refman

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    That these guys were juicing? Yep...it's a joke. Noi wonder these guys were as good as what they were.

    As for the media response...learn a life lesson here. If you take short cuts and get caught, you get whatever it is that you get. You have lost the moral high ground required to complaine about being treated unfairly.
     
  19. MadMax

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    Come on...you're a lawyer. You know better than this. Simply because someone makes an accusation does not mean the accusation is correct.

    In this instance, Andy admitted to something far less sinister than the media would have us believe is going on by those were named in the dreaded Mitchell Report. And now they're all backing away with respect to him.
     
  20. weslinder

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    I thought about this all weekend, and it really got me wondering. Should MLB (and other sports leagues) allow the use of steroids in rehabilitation? If so, how do they manage it?

    If the average person blows out a tendon or strains a muscle playing rec-league basketball or beer league softball, he or she can get prescription steroids for use while rehabbing that injury. It speeds up healing, and if not abused, the negative health effects are minimal. If pro sports leagues allow it, and players spend less time out with injury, everyone benefits. The fans benefit because they get to see more of their favorite players. The team and the league benefits because more profitable players are on the field. And the player benefits physically.

    Obviously, allowing this opens up the potential for abuse, but I think it's manageable. My idea is this: Create a league doctor position. It doesn't have to be full-time, they can just contract with a few sports medicine doctors that they can trust. If a player's doctor prescribes steroids, then he must be checked out by the league doctor. Then if okayed, the player is allowed to use that steroid according to the prescription. He gets a pass on any positive drug tests for that steroid until a few weeks after the end of his prescription.
     

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