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"My Drink and My Two Step"

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by pgabriel, Dec 12, 2007.

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  1. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    For those who don't know, there is this rapper named Cassidy who has just got a prison. Cassidy interestly got his start winning a "battle" rap, his big break came on a colabo with R Kelly.

    Anyway, I will be the first to defend hip hop music. And I have to admit that I like this song "My drink and My Two Step". Only one problem, the song is about being home from spending time in Jail on an Involuntary Manslaughter case. A case that started out as a Murder One case. I just have to think that there is something inherently wrong with making money off another human being's death.

    Like I said, I will defend hip hop to the death, no pun intended, but this is an issue beyond hip hop. Guy's in all industries, make money off their reputation all the time. But someone has lost a life in this case. In a cold and vicious manner. I just find myself pausing when I hear this song played, and I wonder what the family of the victim thinks. It kind of bugs me that its not really discussed on the radio stations that give it airplay. And this song is on its way to being a hit.
     
  2. MR. MEOWGI

    MR. MEOWGI Contributing Member

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    All hip-hop is people running their mouths because they have no real musical talent. Who cares what they say? They are irrelevant.
     
  3. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    you and your atari and prince are living in the past
     
  4. MR. MEOWGI

    MR. MEOWGI Contributing Member

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    Insulting Prince? Who next, Jimi H.?
     
  5. cson

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    Jimi Higlestein?
     
  6. Rocket River

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    Disregard the Karate Kid Prequel there :D

    I recalled when Snoop got off after the guy was killed by his security guard
    I thought .. man . . his family must be devastated
    I wondered if someone would be on the hunt after snoop
    for some of that Joe Horn type of justice

    It would not surprise me if the victims family had one or two that is thinking in those lines

    Rocket River
     
  7. Royals Ego

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    money making is 2nd, they have to maintain being glorified as 'gangstas'

    when networks like BET make specials honoring rappers going to jail, and not being a snitch... c'mon its the culture.

    for good or for worse, rap these days are more related to 'dranks and booty'... for good or for worse...
     
  8. Invisible Fan

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    The notion of street cred has shifted into something base and primal. It's not only that you had to have grown up in a poor urban setting and succeed, but that you have to commit crimes or have some battle scars in the form of a rap sheet or bullet wounds. Several mainstream rappers have bragged about their drug dealing or prison sentences. Isn't that also profiting off the lives and misery of others? Rappers in their position easily spin it to the misery of their own life, and so are entitled to brag about it.

    There's a difference between a direct and indirect cause of death, but I think the public has been conditioned to the point where they know it has blurred, and the moral outrage that could have been seen 15 years ago over glorifying a crime has all but whimpered today.
     
  9. RocketsMac

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    Rap seized to mean anything after the guy who said these words died:

    The message I stress: to make it stop study your lessons
    Don't settle for less - even the genius asks-es questions
    Be grateful for blessings
    Don't ever change, keep your essence
    The power is in the people and politics we address
    Always do your best, don't let the pressure make you panic
    And when you get stranded
    And things don't go the way you planned it
    Dreamin of riches, in a position of makin a difference
    Politicians and hypocrites, they don't wanna listen
    If I'm insane, it's the fame made a brother change
    It wasn't nuttin like the game
    It's just me against the world

    I still listen to rap, and it's pretty much the only thing I listen to, but all it means to me right now is a cool beat and a nice melody. You want meaningful lyrics? they don't exist anymore. That, of course, assuming "meaningful" isn't synonymous with "cranking dat soulja boy" or "this is why [mims] is hot"..
     
  10. halfbreed

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    How much did A&M offer you to go there?

    ;)
     
  11. RocketsMac

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    oh crap, got me there..

    CEASED..

    you can't blame me man, I've been up for the past 42 hours (stayed up the whole night finishing my Biology lab report), so I've been acting kinda weird the whole day...

    but it's just a typo/brain fart though, not a result of intellectual deficiency/brain inadequacy.. :D

    as a matter of fact, I've made the most infamous mistake of all time when I typed "VIRGIN" instead of "version" when describing Novak as a "larger version" of JJ Redick.. that's when people got confused and thought that I was into white male virgins :D
     
  12. tigermission1

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    You really do have an inferiority complex, don't you?

    Have fun going through life with blinders on, or may be you just enjoy being dismissive of any and all things that you have no knowledge about to justify your laziness? May be you're compensating for other shortcomings?

    Keep it up, meow...
     
  13. MR. MEOWGI

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    Laziness is sampling music and ideas because you cant come up with your own.
     
  14. MR. MEOWGI

    MR. MEOWGI Contributing Member

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    Complete moronic garbage:

    <object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/W3o3hTOLc7A&rel=1"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/W3o3hTOLc7A&rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>

    vs.

    Complete genius talent:

    <object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/22eubaCUNJU&rel=1"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/22eubaCUNJU&rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>
     
  15. Rocket River

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    What happened to Rap?
    Mainstream turned the reporting or exposing of the mainstreet to the life in the innercity urban ares
    into
    a glorification of it.

    Look at the Ghetto Boys. . they songs talk about all the yang
    but there was a sence of WHY it went down and maybe they wish it didn't
    but it was their lot in life

    now
    It seems like a bunch of folx talking about SEEKING OUT those types
    of situations and lifestyle

    the changes are subtle
    one is saying .. man . .his is what i been through . . i'm lucky I survived
    to
    man . .this is what I went through . . i made it cause I'm just that d*mn good .. . so if you ain't been through this ***** . . .you a poo butt.

    A bunch of ON-UPMANSHIP is going on as well

    It is a complicated thing with a lot of subtle changes over the years
    that came to the point of being almost a different genre

    Rocket River
     
  16. tigermission1

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    Laziness is seeking out the garbage that is present in all music genres to justify your 'snubbishness'.

    Let me ask you a question: what kind of rap music have you 'sampled'? I can suggest a few artists that can help alleviate your ignorance, perhaps even people who have something 'relevant' to say. :rolleyes:
     
  17. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I am NOT a fan of Hip hop.

    DD
     
  18. tigermission1

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    That's perfectly fine. But you're not going around saying that it's all 100% trash and anything the music has to say is 'irrelevant', not to mention that the artists have no talent to speak of.

    I have a strong dislike for a good chunk of rap music these days as well, so believe me I am aware of the garbage that's cluttering the airwaves. When you have an idiot coming out and comparing his 'worthiness' to MLK and Malcolm X, you know there are problems.
     
  19. MR. MEOWGI

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    I have listened to rap for a long time. Mid 80's I guess. I really liked it for a good while, then I realized all I liked was the music they were sampling. I guess the breaking point was Dr. Dre Chronic sampling Parliament note for note. Mothership Connection is one of my favorite songs and they ruined it. Everyone thought it was so great and I wanted to puke.

    Seek it out? I can't avoid it. The vid I posted is the "artist" mentioned in the original post. And surprise, it sucks.
     
  20. tigermission1

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    So your knowledge of the genre is limited to the early 90's?

    There is a lot of original work being done as well, I pretty much don't listen to 90% of the stuff you hear on the radio, or at least I don't monetarily support it. I only buy a CD nowadays if I feel like the artist is adding something unique, or creative.

    You can always change the station...

    Either way, I don't care, I only took exception to your usual dismissive nature, calling an entire music genre -- indeed, an entire subculture -- "irrelevant". They're relevant alright, whether you think the impact has been positive or negative is a different topic, but the music has had a major impact, there is no question about that.

    So yes, it's 'relevant'...
     
    #20 tigermission1, Dec 12, 2007
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