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Whats wrong with the Rockets?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by LakersPride, Dec 10, 2007.

  1. redeastfan

    redeastfan Member

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    I think, we have given enough time to Adelman. I am very disappointed in him now !
     
  2. blazer_ben

    blazer_ben Rookie

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    OMG how long are we gonna hear this excuse. the coach is making the suck?. the coch can only do so much. it comes back to the players. there not showing any intensity. how come our bench players can outscore them if they showed some fire but our two supposed stars cant?.

    If tracy and yao had some fire in there belly, we could have played better.there is no excuse for mcgrady to start the game 5-5 from the field and stop being aggressive from there. thats what soft players do. no mental strength. you keep attacking.
     
  3. LakersPride

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    Maybe the loss of Rafer is hurting the team I mean he is the best passer that the Rockets have at the PG position.
     
  4. liu1107

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    ur an idiot :D
     
  5. northeastfan

    northeastfan Member

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    Debate? The only debate is whether the Rockets win 30 games this year or not.
     
  6. Yao#1

    Yao#1 Member

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    Dwight averages more turnovers then Yao.

    Dwight shoots about 25 percent lower from the line then Yao.

    Dwight may not miss a fade away from 2 feet, but he surely wont make a jumpshot from 10 feet.

    People need to stop expecting Yao to dominate purely because he is 7'6. Here are some other 7'4 or taller guys that have played in the NBA, (Bol, Eaton, Smits, Muresan, Bradley, Podkolzine). Please tell me which one of them dominated down low even close to the level of Yao.

    Yes, Yao is 7'6 and 310 pounds. But he is not a super athletic guy, so being that big makes him even slower. So yes, he will get dunked on, yes he will get his shot blocked, yes he will be out run by guys, but he is undoubtedly a great NBA center. Last year he averaged 25 and 10 and most likely could have again this year if the system hadnt changed.

    He has his weaknesses, but so does everyone. Why cant Howard develop an outside game. He would be unstoppable. Why couldnt Shaq learn to hit free throws. He was the most dominant player in the world, and his own team couldnt have him on the floor at the end of close games. At 7'0, why cant dirk post people up down low and take it to the rim. Why cant Jason Kidd learn to shoot from outside. How would teams stop him if he could pull up and hit the three on a regular basis.

    Yao is what he is. In the right system he is more valuable to his team then D. Howard or Amare. In the wrong system, like Adelman's, he is an above average player, not a star.
     
  7. blazer_ben

    blazer_ben Rookie

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    Real constructive argument. now go lick yao's balls.
     
  8. rhester

    rhester Member

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    Nice try.

    Let's see what's wrong with the Rockets?

    Better roster
    Different coach

    :)

    DD- I know you couldn't stand Grumpy, but this is so bad...

    Grumpy needed another 1-2 yrs.
     
  9. wingz0

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    Good to see that there are still sensible fans around, Yao#1.
     
  10. blazer_ben

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    If you actually have watched dwight howard this year, he has developed a jumpshot. he does make them when he does take them. not only that, he has alot more post moves in he's repatoire to.
     
  11. Yao#1

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    The reason I can blame the coach is because the same core group of players (Alston, Tmac, Battier, Hayes, Yao) played with lots of intensity last year. You never saw the Rockets as lackluster as they were tonight. JVG was screaming and looking like he wanted to die every game, whether it was a win or loss. Every team knew the Rockets were going to play hard every game last year. That is not the case this year.

    Adelman, maybe stands up five times during a game. You are right it falls back on the players, but if you dont think a coach has anything to do with motivating his team you know nothing about sports.

    As for our back ups cutting the lead down, that may have something to do with Philly losing interest after getting up so big.
     
  12. northeastfan

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    Yao has played basketball almost his entire life. You'd think he would have picked up some *basics* like:

    Go strong to the rim. (That means dunk, no double clutch)
    Don't bring the ball down.
    Don't wait for the double team.

    Those seem like pretty basic things. For all the time he practises, you'd think we would have learned these things by now, but he hasn't so it is very unlikely that he ever will. Those weaknesses characterize softness.

    It is true that other centers have their weaknesses too. But Dwight is *much* younger than Yao and if he develops any sort of an outside game (like Amare), he'll be impossible to stop. Shaq in his prime was impossible to stop because of his inside power and quickness.

    Yao will never have much of an inside game because of his mentality. He *can* be defended effectively by someone who is literally 6'6". There are tons of players who meet that criterion so Yao can be defended by almost every team. Imagine trying to defend Shaq in his prime with someone 6'1". Shaq would dunk the ball and the defended through the rim.
     
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    Surely you are not comparing his shooting touch to Yao's. And if he makes them when he does take them, shouldnt he always be taking them since he would always be making them.

    And yes he does have several post moves. I think he has a right hand dunk, a left hand dunk, a two hand dunk, a reverse dunk, and a short jump hook.

    Again, Dwight Howard is a phenomenal player. Im not arguing that. But in case you havent noticed, he is also a touch more athletic then Yao, and as hard as Yao works, he is never going to run and jump like Howard so wanting him to do so is a waste of time.
     
  14. Yao#1

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    Again, dont compare Yao to Shaq. They are two totally different athletes. No matter how hard Yao works, he will never be as quick or powerful as Shaq. Magic Johnson and Steve Nash both play point guard. However, Magic played a game at center during the playoffs. Since Nash can not play center is he not be as good as Magic. Makes no sense, cuz they are two different types of players playing the same position. Same with Shaq and Yao, and now Im not saying Yao is better then Shaq or that Yao is equal to Magic. Just making a point.

    As for your comment that anyone 6'6 can defend Yao, why is it that he has averaged 22 and 10 two years ago, and 25 and 10 last year. If he truly can be stopped by someone 6'6 then shouldnt he average 4-6 points a game. Especially since other then Tmac, no one is a reliable scorer on this team.

    So basically, Yao can be stopped by anyone 6'6, yet every game gets double teamed and managed to score 25 points a game last year, playing half the season on a recovering broken leg.
     
  15. blazer_ben

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    Fair enough. but the players should haver that fire in them allready. but ure right we need someone who can fire these two guys up. adelman is to relaxed. i wanna see someone like elson turner to finally standup to mcgrady and force him to play to hes potential.

    It's a travesty tracy has so much talent, yet he is content with so little.
     
  16. northeastfan

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    How games this year has Yao been a no-show when fronted by 6'6" type players? Also, explain why Yao doesn't have the basics like the ones I've mentioned: going strong to the hole, not holding the ball down low, not waiting for the double team. Either he is soft or stupid or both.
     
  17. tigermission1

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    It's hilarious watching the JVG haters spin this onto the players now, when they were the SAME GUYS asking for the coach's head last year (and the year before that) for a variety of perceived shortcomings.

    You guys are a bunch of hypocrites, your opinions are worthless...
     
  18. Fariyad Is King

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    they prob. had some nasty greasy philly cheese steak sandwiches.....mmmmmmhmmmmmmm cheese steak (like homer)
     
  19. A_3PO

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    Bingo! The inconsistency is breathtaking. :eek:
     
  20. thelasik

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    Bingo. This board is full of inconsistent haters.
     

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