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Is This Letter Racist?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Lil Pun, Dec 8, 2007.

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Is This Letter Racist?

  1. Yes

    15 vote(s)
    27.8%
  2. No

    39 vote(s)
    72.2%
  1. Lil Pun

    Lil Pun Member

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    Nobody knows that for sure.
     
  2. Mr. Brightside

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    Only one line of that letter could be construed as racist. The part about "do do pants..." I really don't even know what that means, but it sounds like it is somewhat racist. The rest of the letter was rambling around and poorly written though.
     
  3. Invisible Fan

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    I wouldn't say the letter is outright racist, but you can draw racist conclusions with it. If the account is true, the writer would have a relatively aggravating experience apart from her daily life. While I don't think that is enough for her to cast an easy judgment about the police killing a 12 year old boy, the letter itself isn't racist.

    Anecdotal accounts like hers is what make neighborhoods fed up with "thug crime" enough to support vigilante murderers.
     
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  4. Rashmon

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    Never mind.
     
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  5. krnxsnoopy

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    The letter wasn't racist.

    But this on the other hand....

    You shouldn't make generalizations.
     
  6. giddyup

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    A black lady calling a young black man a "black boy" is very different from me doing it....

    It didn't strike me as racist.
     
  7. Carl Herrera

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    Hmm... the son was getting him some at age 13?
     
  8. Lil Pun

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    Again, how do you know the writer is black?

    I am not saying it is racist it just sounded like it to me, maybe it was the poor way it was written, I don't know.
     
  9. what

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    Lil Pun, I am going to write out the logic behind this as I see it, only because the term racist seems to be so vague these days.

    First, I think that you are saying this is letter is racist because it presents an unfair stereotype about black youth in general, that they are all gang bangers. When in fact the majority of the black youth are well adjusted contributing members of society, college students, etc. And so, when something like this is said you want to somehow show these people that there is another side to all this. We aren't all gang bangers.

    The one thing I will say about this is that this model is so very tired, the model wherein black people have a need to "present" themselves as valuable members of the world. It goes back to slavery times and the Reconstruction. Who cares what a white person thinks about you anyway. I wouldn't give a flying fart myself. You have to know that you are valuable for yourself.
     
  10. Bandwagoner

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    I don't see any generalizations at all. Can you be specific?

     
  11. Bandwagoner

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    So you dislike the letter = its racist?

    She mentioned her dislike of actions not people. If you believe race is the sole factor in actions then maybe you have some issues?

    Actually I saw some gramatical errors. If done on purpose to make it look like the person writing it was of a lower economic class then then the person was at least a turd. Might not have anything to do with race though.
     
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  12. wnes

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    Are you friggin' kidding me?

    What redeeming values do you find in the movie Crash for Asians / Asian Americans?
     
  13. rhadamanthus

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    Meowgi? Is that you?
     
  14. giddyup

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    I don't know that the writer was black; that's just the way it struck me and so I asked for confirmation from other readers.

    It has a casual, familiar tone that helped give that impression.

    ...

    I tried to find a Carey Marshall of Jonesboro, AR at Switchboard.com. None there.
     
  15. joliver325

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    Why does she find it important to say it was a black boy? Just say it was some person. I believe if it was a white person speaking of the same race they wouldnt state the race b/c to them there's no reason to. The same with if she was black. I feel when speaking of a story involving another race we all tend to provide their race in the story. Why is that?
     
  16. Invisible Fan

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    I wonder if some of you have read the story that provoked the lady's response.
     
  17. Another Brother

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    I don't think letter was racist, but the person who wrote it is.

    But yall know me...
     
  18. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    No, I'm StupidMoniker, or Hydra if you prefer. MEOWGI is some other guy. You can tell by the name on the side.

    <--- over there

    :D
     
  19. Nice Rollin

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    it was racist...



    "We live a good Christian life"
    .......what does "Christian" have to do with anything?
     
  20. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Is the NFL referee who called Samari Rolle "boy" during the Patriot-Raven game a racist?
     

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