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Who is better Dwight or Yao?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by DaDakota, Nov 30, 2007.

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Who is better, Dwight Howard, or Yao Ming

  1. Dwight Howard - younger and more athletic

    53.8%
  2. Yao Ming - Taller and more skilled

    46.2%
  1. chihchen

    chihchen Member

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    dwight's don't need a jumpshot to dominate
    but yeah, watch out! dwight's gona break your boy yao into two pieces
     
  2. chihchen

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    dwight vs yao is really like shaq vs luc longley

    i bet you are also a physically slow person, that's why you love yao so much
    might aswell brag about longley, gheogre muresan etc
    they share similar physical attributes as you
     
  3. chihchen

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    reading your post again makes me realize you are truely hopeless
    your excuses are so predictable and are weak as hell
    how can anyone be this r****ded... can't blame you thou, i blame your mother
     
  4. chihchen

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    .......
    again, i blame your mother
     
  5. zoids

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    and what kind of pathetic idiot would quadruple posted in a single page? Your mother must be very proud of you. :rolleyes:
     
  6. Dkny_112

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    Hahahaha. Yao is defended legally. Too bad Yao didn't play in the 90s when there was the illegal defense rule. Every superstar in the league gets double teamed. Fronting Yao makes it hard for him to catch the ball and execute a move.

    Fronting Howard = power dunk ala Shaq. You just can't front a great leaper. Thats equivalent to starting behind Tony Parker or Barbosa in a race downcourt.

    You need to be happy with Yao is. The guy is a MONSTER in the paint who is a scoring machine 1 on 1 and demands double teams. 25/10 will result in a lot of wins for the TEAM.

    Quit bashing TMAC or D.Howard or anybody else that threatens your heroes "status".
     
  7. chihchen

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    tuan = bayareag510
    same arguments
    same excuses
     
  8. BayAreaG510

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    No, wrong on that one. Yao always gets grabbed and pulled, tangled, and illegally defended. SOMETIMES, VERY RARELY, the refs will blow the whistle. But A LOT OF TIMES, they don't. Now if Shaq or Tim Duncan gets pulled, tangled, it's a foul on the defender. Everyone knows Yao gets screwed by these gambling corrupt refs. It's old news.

    Besides, Yao and Shaq are probably the only 2 centers that gets double-teamed without the ball. And now Shaq is getting 15 points or below per night. Back in the 90's, that's called an illegal defense.

    Give credit to Yao, he gets screwed and defended illegally, and he still puts up decent numbers. Imagine if he gets defended legally, WATCH OUT! He'll tear it up!
     
  9. Sextuple Double

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    I can't give the ball to Dwight Howard and tell him to get me 2pts when isolated down low. I can do that with Yao all day.
     
  10. A_3PO

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    Read what you just posted. Think about it. Then watch a couple of his games. When isolated down low, Howard is unstoppable. 95% of the time when that happens, he will be fouled or get a very high percentage shot.

    Maybe you are under the mistaken impression all of his points come from passes or alley-oops. Not so. Jameer Nelson ain't Nash.
     
  11. awo86

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    have to admit the truth....tmac ditch the right ship
     
  12. steddinotayto

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    It's no use. They don't see the fact that, like someone else mentioned, if Howard is fronted, Jameer or anyone else can just lob that up to Howard for a dunk. He's that strong and he's that athletic and he's that good. If you defend Howard straight up, he's quick enough and strong enough to spin and, thus, dunk on you. He might be a one trick pony for now, but that one trick is tearing the league apart.

    As for the difference between Dwight Howard and Amare Stoudemire pre-Microfracture surgery, Amare used his athleticism to dunk over everyone too but he didn't have the strength and power Howard has. Granted Amare's outside game and low post game is a lot better than Howard's right now, Howard is a beast in that paint.
     
  13. ivanyy2000

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    Just be careful what you are saying. I am still not convinced that Howard can outplay Yao right now if they face each other one on one, especially if Howard defends Yao without fronting.

    Howard's offense still is not polished. He doesn't have that reliable mid range jumper or even back to the basket moves. He can't out-muscle Yao like he does it to most of centers in the league. Yao actually match ups better against him than Boozer.
     
  14. rockmanslim

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    In all previous matchups, Howard has not been all-world againt Yao, and in many of those games he was almost completely ineffective against Yao. On the other hand, Yao has had some monster games against Howard. It used to be the same way with Amare, until Amare developed a little bit of an outside game.

    However, Howard still doesn't have a jumpshot, and like you said he depends on outmuscling smaller opponents for point blank shots to get his points, which is something he can't do to Yao due to Yao's height and sheer mass, slow and unathletic as that mass may be.

    Of course, once December 19th passes, I reserve the right to retract my vote, should Howard go Tarzan on Yao. :)
     
  15. A_3PO

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    This will surprise you and I've said it several times: I still think Yao is better than Howard, at the moment. If Howard keeps up the production all season and Yao nevers hits his stride under Adelman this year, then I'll de-throne Yao and pronounce Howard as the NBA's best center. What I find sad is some of Yao's supporters (in these recent threads) often say things about Howard that are just plain false. They do this (I guess) to build up Yao. Some of the statements are so desperate that they almost disprove their point. Examples from this thread alone:

    Howard can't reliably score on isolations down low = Dumb
    Howard's skills will "diminish faster" than Yao's = Dumber. Howard is 21 years old and looking ahead 10+ years is irrelevant.
    Howard's PFs "protect him" more than Yao = Ignorant (in the generic sense)
    Howard is a PF but Yao is a C = Ridiculous.
    Howard chokes against Amare (AFTER he already threw down 33/18 on him a month ago) = Crazy.
    etc, etc, etc.

    You get the idea. Pointing out Yao's vast array of offensive moves, his ability to score further away from the basket, his FT%, etc, etc is valid. But trying to tear down Howard by saying false things is garbage.

    I'm looking forward to their head to head matchup in 3 weeks. I've been a huge fan of Howard since he came into the NBA. But because Yao is on my team, I hope he teaches the young pup a few lessons.
     
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    To be honest, it wouldn't be surprising if Dwight Howard is on steroids. It certainly wouldn't be suprising at all.
     
  17. steddinotayto

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    Just because the guy is built like that he is immediately pegged a steroid user? Wow.
     
  18. Dkny_112

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    Guy has looked like that coming into the league. Plus what would be the point in bulking up further? At this point hes already strong enough and taking steroids would only hinder him rather then help.

    Taking anabolic steroids cause injuries - greater chance at muscle tears/ ligament damage etc. Last time i checked, Dwight Howard has missed 1 GAME in his 3 year career. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

    Dude, you really gotta stop hating. Talking ***** about D. Howard doesn't make Yao a better player.

    Its pretty evident at this point that you'd do anything to PROP Yao up.

    You seem like the type of guy that would rather have Yao avg a 32/15 and have the Rockets lose all their games. Then you could blame the supporting cast and say "Yao is doing all he can.." blah blah blah. :eek:

    Sorry if this comes off as a personal attack but i'm sick and tired of people on this forum bashing Yao or TMAC or others in order to PROP up their hero.

    we're not in grade school anymore folks... though some of us still might be. :confused:
     
  19. HoustonForever

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    Yao is better, but Dwight is becoming an elite center himself. That's excellent for the league. ;)
     
  20. devin23

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    If you are talking about who's better this season so far, its dwight. If you are talking about who's better the last 3 years, than its yao. I'm sure dwight will continue to dominate though.
     

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