Battier for Rudy Gay/Stromile is not paying dividends

It is going to happen.

 

Sad, but true.

 

LOL @ even suggesting that Rudy Gay is even close to a superstar player. He's not even an all-star player yet. The Rockets need role players that can help them NOW. They can't afford to wait for players to mature.

These Gay fans are funny. I wonder if they even realize that Gay's numbers are inflated because of the fast tempo they play in, and the fact that they've been a mediocre team despite having lots of talent.

Horrible logic. Players should be judged based on individual performance and not generalized because of what school they went to. I guess that means college players from schools that aren't tradition basketball powers have no chance at succeeding in the NBA.

 

Before or after my 7-year-old's bar mitzvah?

Dividend paid!

 

this thread is done...this is how shane played last year...great team and 1on1 d with a good shooting night, lots of hustle, passion, and intelligence...rudy gay is a highlight reel player who goes for espn...tonight battier showed a performance reminiscent of last season under jvg where he thrived except this was under adelman's faster-paced system...and that is a very good sign...for a team with 2 superstars in their prime with the window closing (like 3 years!!!!!!!) i will take shane over gay every game if he does what he did last season and tonight...rudy will give u a highlight but shane will give u the "W"...he's by far the more intelligent and mature player, although rudy gay is very athletic and shows promise offensively (not much else)...done deal, no regrets

move on

 

Agreed.


Shane is who we thought he was.

Gay, like any other draft pick, was a gamble.

It was a good decision. Hindsight can't change that, and for all who say they knew beforehand how Gay will finish his career... inform us also of the other 9 out of 10 times that you've been wrong.

 

This thread is utterly moot and useless, considering that the Rockets were NEVER going to pick Rudy Gay in the first place even if the trade had not happened.

If you ask me, I'm glad we got Shane Battier instead of being stuck with Stromile Swift and Thabo Sefolosha. THANK HEAVENS.

 

^^^^^
The dumbest comment I have read in weeks.

 

We miss Rudy Gay Defense and playmaking ability.

 

Man you're funny

 

He wasn't horrible, but that was the quietest 17/10 game I've ever seen. And Mike Miller looked like a shutdown defender next to Gay.

Ah well, I'm still happy.

 

What about my post do you not agree on, rookie? All the players I named have made names for themselves in the NBA and came out of UConn. The poster I was referring to (which wasn't you by the way) hinted that CD and Morey felt that Gay wasn't any good. My point is he came out of a program that has been well-known for producing solid to superstar NBA players. It sounds like common sense that there is a better than average chance that Gay will be at least a solid NBA player; how is that horrible logic on my part?

Sorta like the guy you named yourself after since Texas isn't really a traditional basketball power (and we're going back more than 10 years here, more like the last 30)?

I've never said what I quoted, so don't put words in my mouth.

I am all for a good debate but I won't debate people who put words in my mouth.

 

LOL, I love how you string "one game" and "done deal" together.

A gamble also has its value. I think people are arguing over the value of a certain gamble and the value of a certain known commodity, that's all they are doing. So, gamble vs known commodity in itself doesn't give this thread a conclusion.

 

I know our first choice was Brandon Roy because of his maturity and poise.. but I'm seeing alot of that in Rudy G this season..

 

It's funny, really. How many of you will be thrilled if we have Brandon Roy right now?

Yet when it comes to Gay vs Shane, people continue to use "play the same position as Tmac"/"just potential" argument.

 

Actually, at the time of the draft, I thought we should look for a SG, thinking that T-Mac's natural position was SF. I wanted Roy or Brewer, like many others here. So Rudy Gay was never high on my radar. When we ended up taking Shane Battier, I still expected that T-Mac would continue to be a SF, and Battier would play PF. That was apparently the plan, until the second game of the regular season.

One difference between Battier and Gay is that Battier is smart/disciplined enough to switch on SGs when necessary. I don't think Gay was ready for that last year, and isn't quite ready for it this year either. It's nice to have a perimeter defender with versatility to defend against multiple positions, so we can switch off T-Mac on the weaker offensive threat.

 

Explain how's Roy and Gay the same?

 

All you get from what I said is how they are the same?

 

Again excusing incompetence for more incompetence is stupid. They were dumb to not keep Gay even if they weren't going to get him in the first place. It would have been a stupid move regardless especially since he was there for the taking.

As far as his defense goes, statistically he's better, and more athletically capable than Battier. You don't think a coach like JVG or Thibodaeu couldn't mold a player like that into a consistently good defender? At worst even if his stats did go down, he's a better version of James Posey. Someone that a lot of Rocket fans coveted when we lost him.

If he could cover up the deficiencies of a defender like Luther Head who played 27 minutes under JVG his rookie year, and 28 minutes his second, then there's no doubt in my mind that JVG would give him playing time as long as he earned it. And I think he would have.

One game isn't going to make me eat crow over the Rockets losing Rudy. One season isn't either unless its a post-season where the Rockets actually advance deep into the playoffs, and its in large part attributed to Battier's role on the team. Again he was what 0-8 or 0-12 before coming to the Rockets? And of the 7 games last year vs the Jazz he played good in like 2 of them. He doesn't even provide a winning mentality in a crowd of mostly losers in the playoffs. But he's professional, so I guess that make alright right?

 

Maybe that's why I need your explanation.
As I can think of Gay and TMAC ARE the same type of player, but Roy's not.
And if we get Roy we won't trade him