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Aldeman's reasons for keeping Hayes and Alston in the starting line-up

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by OGKashMoney, Dec 2, 2007.

  1. TeamUSA

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    Sir, IMHO, you're an idiot.
     
  2. McGradySNKT

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    When has the word consistent and Rafer ever belonged in the same sentence?

    How about Offense and Chuck Hayes?


    Looking at the other teams in the league, ALOT of them have tall, athletic competent players starting that actually look like they enjoy playing basketball.


    How long does it take to realize Rafer will NEVER be anything more than what he is? Overrated for what he does... dribbling the ball up the court and passing off to Tmac.

    Smush Parker can do that, this organization and the fans who even believe this makes an ounce of sense are probably all high.
     
  3. McGradySNKT

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    and that's saying what? It means little when Steve makes defensive plays to help us win games while Rafer continues to get smoked in the playoffs like he isnt even on the floor.

    Explain how Mr Defense Rafer Alston allowed Deron to break him off as if he was a super saiyan.

    Please stop defending this guy, he's had enough time to prove himself and he never dissapoints in failing.
     
  4. solid

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    I have been watching Rafer for two years getting smoked on defense by just about every PG in the league, especially in the West. Frankly, I don't understand how Francis could be worse. In the Utah playoff series it was just brutal. See him against Baron Davis recently? Tony Parker? Anybody? Sometimes I think Adelman is talking about somebody else, like there is a second Rafer. Not that he doesn't try hard, he does. He is simply not starting material in the West, maybe not in the whole NBA despite what two coaches think. Do the fans know better than two "professionals?" Apparently they do.
     
  5. TRAVLR

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    I simply don't understand the people that say Rafer is a good defender. I just don't see it on the court. What I see is someone (the only one?) who overplays his man so badly to one side that he FORCES him to drive right past Rafer who then loses his man and picks up someone else's once the defense breaks down. Rafer NEVER seems to get back to his man on the pick n roll. He seems weak and slow. Yes he give tremendous effort, but to no avail. I see coaches all the time that are hypnotized by effort, but I'd rather see results. Stevie Francis joked about not playing D but he still seems to play more D than Rafer to me.

    Rofflesaurus- Your quote is out of context and has more to do with Adelman's concern with Steve's conditioning than ability to play defense. Steve is bigger and stronger and doesn't shy away from all contact like Rafer. Rafer cannot even get called for fouls because he's so far from his man.
     
  6. hermbob

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    There's just too many things about Adelman that don't add up so far to just assume that the man knows what he's doing.
     
  7. zong

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    Waiting for January? If we are playing like right now, by January, we would be in the no. 7 or 8 in the western conf, then how can you complete with a NBA champ? Are we talking for the NBA champ or the playoff? If it is just for the playoff, then we do not change the coach.
     
  8. edlove75

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    Adleman is full of bull ish!! We can see who the better player is on game day :rolleyes: And sure as hell is not rayfoot :eek:
     
  9. SuperMarioBro

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    Hayes brings a lot to the table, and I definitely don't mind him being in the game a lot, especially since Scola is still clearly making some adjustments.

    ... But Reefer, on the other hand...
     
  10. poprocks

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    There are a lot of teams in the NBA that would want Francis. You couldn't give Rafer away for the toy you get in your crackerjacks box.
     
  11. SuperMarioBro

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    First of all, Adelman is full of crap and is covering his ass. Anyone who watches the games and is capable of forming their own, educated opinion can see how badly Reefer gets eaten all too often (Beno freaking Udrih? Are you kidding me?) Adelman, if you remember, also called Reefer a "perfect fit" for this offense. Right... we can all see how true that is.

    Second of all, when did he say that? Link? I can't really imagine Adelman saying to the national media that any one of his players is "much better" than any one of his other players in any category, unless it was obvious... in which case, it wouldn't really need to be said. That's why this sounds even more like him covering for something. He's making up a reason to play Alston... defense is the easiest part of a player's game to get away with praising because it's the hardest for the observer to objectively evaluate between two players like that.

    Secondly, you are not a good poster... but at least you are consistent with your terrible gimmick.
     
  12. SuperMarioBro

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    Errr... that second "Secondly" should be a "Finally", heh...
     
  13. mms

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    saying rafer's defense is good is like saying Mr. GWB is really smart.
     
  14. HouRKFan

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    i can clearly tell that u dont watch basketball. yes hes not a good offensive player, but on the defense side, hes the guy for the job. his great defense makes up for the poor offense.
     
  15. HouRKFan

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    sorry TeamUSA. I meant for my comment to be to "Aloe"
     
  16. scutmb

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    First, Aldeman like a easy way to coach, the 52 wins of last year without Yao and T-Mac in a lot of games gave him reason to be relaxed.

    Second, Aldeman knows he is wrong now, but he does not want to admit it publically.

    How could you play dynamic offense with 3 players who have no offense skill ? The 6-1 out of the first 7 games made everyone blind. SO ita take time to correct it. It will suffer a while .
     
  17. OGKashMoney

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    I haven't really given too much thought about this point, but the good news is that it appears to be fitting our two most important pieces. The rest can be packaged for other pieces. So unless Yao or Mac start to become disgruntled with the system, I wouldn't be too concerned about the system not fitting the team. Those pieces that don't fit should be gotten rid of.
     
  18. OGKashMoney

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    I like both Francis and Rafer, but thats not something you should be too proud of.

    At the moment, Francis is fat and out of shape. He doesn't have his knees so his jumpers are just out-right flat but he plays with great intensity. But someone telling you that you play better defense than an out of shape player still feeling the affects of his knee-injury is not the greatest comment.

    Hopefully Rafer finds his shot and Francis gets in shape....
     
  19. rockergordon

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    How badly is he getting schooled by opposing PGs this season? :confused: Evidence?


    I'm starting to feel that we could win a championship and most you people would still be B!tchin' and moanin'.

    I have enjoyed the games this year....
     
  20. monica

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    i cant see any perspective Adleman has
     

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