Ok, i think i figured out the spoiler tags.....here's what confused me. Spoiler who killed moss and how did they find him? when TLJ pulls up to the hotel to meet with moss, a truck speeds away and there is a dead mexican with an uzi and moss is dead inside his hotel room. TLJ goes back there later, and the lock is blown out and Chiguar is inside the room but I took that to mean he arrived late and somebody beat him to Moss. Did I just completely miss something or was this addressed at some point?
Alright, I just watched this online and figured out what I missed the first time. I am an idiot. Spoiler the mexican that helps out moss's mother in law is part of the gang of mexicans that have the second transponder. the truck leaving the hotel was the same one from the previous hotel. i missed that the first time. i guess they followed the wife and found out where moss was and killed him. Chiguar was back at the hotel to get the money. I missed the dime on the floor when I watched it the first time but it all made sense after seeing that since he knew moss hid the money in the vent from the previous hotel
I loved the movie. I thought the theme was a little different than a good vs. evil thing. Spoiler I actually thought the theme of the movie was really about change, and the ability or inability to adapt to it. The opening of the movie starts out with Tommy Lee Jones narrating about how lawmen used to be, and how he can't help comparing himself with the old timers. He also mentions how he had an interest in learning about the old timers and never missed a chance to hear a story about them. Throughout the movie there are several different conversations at crime scenes, people meeting up etc. that all talk about how now it's drugs and money that run everything, and how different it was years ago. Tommy Lee Jones laments "sir" and Ma'am" going out the window. Jones' character talks about how steers are put down these days as opposed to in the old days. Everything that happens seems to comment on the changes and how they can't be stopped. In the end Tommy Lee Jones' dream talks about how things are dark and he saw his dad lighting the fire and that when Jones gets there (dies) his father will have a fire lit in the wilderness. The wilderness is the new changing world, that Jones can't get used to and doesn't like.
I saw this Wednesday and really enjoyed it. The dialog was the best of any movie I've seen in a long time.
Spoiler I'm with you. Except nothing had changed. I think that was the point of the conversation with the old man who told about his uncle getting gunned down on the front porch in front of his family in 1909. That nothing had really changed. That evil had always been with us...was still with us...and always would be...with the clocking ticking in the background as the screen went to black.
The scene toward the end where Carla Jeand and Chigurh are talking is one of the best scenes I've ever seen. It's right up there with the second conversation between Travis and Jane in Paris, TX.
This is basically what I meant to say, but I used a lot of misnomers like good, evil, human, unnatural, etc. I'm really bad at words Basically any negative labels I used were for what I guess could be generalized as the Inevitable
What I'm still not sure of is ... Spoiler What exactly happened in the hotel room at the end. Bell enters the room and Chigurh is hiding in the corner... now the book says they were in seperate rooms, but the screenplay says they aren't. There was also not really anyway Chigurh could have slipped out unnoticed, which leads me to believe since Bell wasn't killed, we must have missed another crucial confrontation.
Yeah good point. The one thing I wasn't sure of is what was that character's relation to Tommy Lee Jones? Was he a brother, uncle, what?
I'm in the same boat on this. Judging from the blown keyhole, they should be in the same room. Yet, Bell couldn't find him?
I saw the movie last night. Brilliance. Spoiler Destiny: Choice or Chance. This theme recurs throughout the movie. The coin-toss is "chance." Your "call" is your "choice." "If you follow a rule, and that rule brought you here, then what kind of rule is it?" (paraphrased)
Spoiler Chigur killed moss. A couple of the gang members were killed and the rest were running away from Chigur like bats out of hell. The other cop mentioned that Chigur went back to the scene of a previous crime. Thats why Tommy Lee Jones goes back to the scene later. Chigur came back to get the money.
Here is my take. Spoiler The movie is about fate and death. You don't know how or when your are going to die. Its chance or fate. Chigur is like a modern day Grim Reaper. It is his job to take you out uncompassionately. When its your time, its your time. The conversation with Moss' wife was telling. He asks her to call heads or tails. She says it just a coin and he does not have to flip it. He says "I got here the same way the coin did." It was just chance that he was there and it was her time.
Spoiler I disagree about Chigurh killing Moss. That wasn't Chigurh's style. He used a silencer and would sneak up on people. I think the Mexicans shot and killed Moss and Chigurh just came back for the money. I can see it your way too, but based on how he did things, a parking lot shootout in daylight just doesn't make sense to me. He did shoot that one dude in the head in the daylight, but there was nobody around for miles.
I think in the movie they decided to have Bell in that scene know by the keylock that Chigurh had been at the scene. Bell of course is fearful thinking he might be in that room. The only way they can show the imagery of his fear of walking in on Chigurh is to have an image of him in the room even though Bell has no idea what he looks like. That's how I saw the scene at least. You could just feel Bell's fear just standing at the front door.
