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Food for Thought: A Courtside Perspective of the Rockets-Mavs Game

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by azoghbi, Nov 22, 2007.

  1. darnbni99a

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    lmaoo i was thinking the exact same thing..

    good post tho. nice info. i do think our offense will start to click around the time of the all-star break and hopefully it will lead us deep into the playoffs!!
     
  2. howe070523

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    Guys....Let me repeat this.
    New Coach, New Players, New System, 12 games in..
    Please give our boys some more time.
     
  3. mzymmm

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    I say rockets are playing rafer to up his values, and wait for the Dec 15 for the trade market to unfroze. then we will be saying byebye to rafer. and sf3 will eventually start. THIS IS A BIG CONSIPIRACY, MOREY is behind all these! THe goal is to trade rafer+head!
     
  4. howe070523

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    Dont know about that but Im sure Morey is onto something...BIG.
    Thou I do agree they are trying to get Rafer to max value...I dont think Rafer's overall value is good enough to land us a decent player...Oh well, Morey, make it happen.
     
  5. AggNRox

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    near the end of the last nite game, we had the same lineup and came up the same result as last year. are you surprised? we were not losing the game in 46 min. we lost because of last a couple of min of the game. have you listened to the post game interview. they all said one thing. we lost because of the last 2 min.

    if the starting lineup were different, i would definitely give them time.
     
  6. howe070523

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    Its not the end of the season yet.
     
  7. AggNRox

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    but if no change, there is no difference btw its not the end of the season yet and first round playoff or second round playoff exit.

    this starting lineup has showed what they can do in the last season. a season show doesn't mean anything? do we still need to waste the valuable time to this starting lineup. why just give others the time to gel with yao and tmac? better to change early than later.
     
  8. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Average to bad teams always say they were "THIS CLOSE" to winning, whereas winning teams just win.

    DD
     
  9. aamir

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    Thanks for the thoughts, some very good observations noted.

    Personally, I think its silly to be so reactionary at this point to begin with. Our starters may have remained the same, but our team overall is radically different. It's going to take some time.
     
  10. AggNRox

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    exactly. i don't understand. if the fans here are willing to give more time to the same starting lineup, why didn't they give more time to jvg. frankly speaking, jvg didn't do bad. comparing to other team except those elite teams, jvg did pretty dammit good.
     
  11. AggNRox

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    i believe rox has enough talents to prevail this year. i believe our bench is better although it hasn't showed up so far. however, the starting lineup has to be changed since they are going to be on the court when the game is on the line, like last nite.

    with the same starting lineup, i will expect the same results as the last season when a game was on the line. that hurts me a lot.
     
  12. rock8ts

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    Tmac was in ppppppain and not 100% and he was playing and was freaking taking 3pt shots.. THAT'S SICK, but that's a typical tmac.

    Yao Ming is not soft? If you're 7 6 and guards are dunking on you, that's sick soft.

    You were on courtside? that's cool.
     
  13. azoghbi

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    It's pretty rare that a guard dunks ON yao. I agree that they are able to drive around him with ease, but its pretty tough for Yao to get a clean block on a smaller player without getting a foul called on him. The refs see huge man destroying little man and immediately bring out the whistles. I think a lot of it is Yao trying to keep himself out of foul trouble personally. I'd rather him get dunked on and be able to play 5-10 more minutes in a game. It sucks being so huge sometimes.
     
  14. Pat

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    That pretty much sums up what bothers me aboout these Rockets. Those are mistakes that good teams just don't make. Play defense, box out, and make your free throws (something Dallas did with the game on the line and something we didn't) and you will give yourself a chance to win even on a bad day.

    Untill we start to play smarter and with focus, it will always be the little kids vs the big kids.
     
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    I wonder how long some of you have followed the Rockets. Frustration builds up over time. Excuses grow thin over time. Watching the team make the same personnel mistakes over and over and over produces frustration. There are reasons some of us have a low tolerance. It isn't because we are not "good" fans, it is usually because we are looooooooooong suffering fans. Frankly, I'm tired of "be patient," I'm like DaDakota, the good teams win, the losers make excuses.
     
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    Good post and I liked everything you said. That being said, I think that our biggest problem right now is our Coach, not the roster. I agree, I think we have a team that can compete for a championship when our players are healthy and playing good basketball, not even their best. But I think RA is doing a terrible job directing that talent right now. I am hoping he gets better and we don't need to make a coaching change. But to me, RA had a terrible OFFSEASON evaluating the talent on this team and how to best use it. His prime example is the starting of Wafer in every game after what this whole city, the owner and GM have witnessed the last two seasons. Does this guy listen at all? He thinks Les went over the luxury tax to bring in three more PGs to start Wafer again? Now that's either not doing your homework, or being terribly arrogant and stubborn.

     
  17. Htown57

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    great post. It hurts me to look at the BBS after a game like the dallas game, with all the negativity. A fire Adleman post? a bunch of "we suck" posts, this player is soft, that player is soft, etc....people, IT'S TWELVE GAMES INTO THE SEASON with a NEW COACH and the HARDEST SCHEDULE IN BASKETBALL.

    Think about it...they've only been running this offense for a month. Phil Jackson says it takes two years for a team to run the triangle (with which our offense has similarites, particularly it's "read and react" nature) well. And we expect to be the '02 kings after a month under adleman? Some of the people on this board need to get some perspective. This team works hard. This coach has a proven track record. It's gonna take some time, though.


    Of course, it's not like i don't have complaints about the game. 1. The PG situation-- Rafer's transition 3 in the endgame the other night was a terrible, terrible shot. And he got yelled at for it.
    Would francis be a better option? People seem to forget francis couldn't hold on to a job in orlando or new york, and then was paid 30 million dollars to NOT PLAY for portland...he's obviously talented, but just as obviously, he has issues. Motivation? Confidence? Matador defense? conditioning? Clearly, there's some problem there.

    What about mike james He's sort of more of a shooting gaurd, and adleman realizes this. I do like the way he's playing.

    Luther?
    Not...a....ballhandler. His shooting really is spectacular, but that's about it. He cannot defend quick point gaurds or strong shooting gaurds. Devin harris: abused luther. Jerry Stackhouse: abused luther. The vast majority of gaurds in the leauge abuse luther. Everything outside of his jumpshot and cutting ability is a liability. Does that mean he's worthless? no. Does that mean his role should be limited? yeah, probably.

    Aaron Brooks Honestly, i think this is our long term solution, i just don't think he's ready yet. He'll start to get limited burn here and there, i think, against smaller, quicker gaurds.

    My only other complaint from the game was the possesion where yao got the ball waaayy low in the block against dirk, took two dribbles, and kicked it out when the double team started coming. I know he's probably tired that late in the game, but that doesn't excuse that play...he's got to score when he's that low in the situation. take one dribble, then spin for a jumper. or a hook. anything! It might be nice to look around for a wide open shot, but when you're the superstar, and you have position late in the game, ATTACK, don't wait. Does this make yao soft? Maybe it was a soft move, but it's something that can be adjusted. I'm not concerned.

    That being said, i still have high hopes for the season. I thank the poster of this thread for having a reasonable attitude, a patient attitude instead of the kneejerk doomsayism that turns me off from this forum. Please excuse the rant.
     
  18. azoghbi

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    i'm so glad this thread hasn't turned into a huge argument, i appreciate all of the positive comments, just trying to keep us all grounded during this crappy time. believe i was freaking angry last night and just needed to vent and try to be rational about it... i love this place.
     
  19. cheshire

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    I agree with this. I was so mad how they let Dallas steal that game that all I could think about was marshmallows. What a bunch of marshmallows!
     
  20. bbjai

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    What does that make the Mavericks? They are a "good" team, yet lost hardcore against Golden State
     

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