I never boasted about being rich. When my ex and I were together, we could have afforded a $33,000 car. Put pencil to paper and it isn't that much. But feel free to bugger off just the same.
My brother just bought a Tundra from Sterling McCall and swore he'll never do business again with them because of the sales managers and finance managers etc. They try to screw him by pretending to miscalculate and add up unsuspecting cost at every corner.
I really don't know what your problem is dude. Why do you have to blacklist a dealership just because they told you they wanted list for their vehicle? That is part of the negotiating process. First of all, you trying to get them to reveal "how much profit they should make on this" is hilarious. What, did you want them to break out a financial statement, with their overhead, utility bill, tax documents, payroll, trace it all down to this one camry, and determine how much "profit" they should make like you are the big bawler come to lay your nuts on their forehead? If they told you they wanted sticker, fine. Move on if you don't want to pay. They have the right to charge what they want. You have the right to pay what you want. Don't take it personally just because you didn't get to show off your negotiating skills in front of "The wife". Believe me, if the sales manager wasn't confident that he could get sticker, he wouldn't have asked for it. He probably detected that you were a likely headache and asked for list just to get you out the door so his staff could get back to selling to reasonable people.
Rhaddymantooth - yes, it was indeed a sad day when I sold the F150 and picked up the Lexxxus. Don't you worry, champ, I'm still the King of the Road
I look forward to the thread on mopeds where you proudly inform us that you sold said lexus for a high powered scooter.
Gas Gas Gas Gas Gas Gas Gas $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ thats why I sold mine. I bought my wife a Volkswagon EOS at the Volkswagon Dealership off 290....they were good to me.
I wanted to make some profound contribution to this thread but got bored. My Uncle sold cars for awhile...like 7 years. And felt guilty the whole time. Anyone who thinks they are ever getting over is wrong. Everytime. You never get over on the dealership. Ever. As the internet continues to alter commerce the manufacturers will wise up and begin to sell around the dealerships. Then those scoundrels can all go out of business and rob banks and sell crank or do whatever other thing they can to make a cheap lousy buck. I will never go to a dealership again. And I bought an Impala from my own flesh and blood. For $5000 under MSRP. And still got effed.
Directly? This is an anonymous internet complaint. If you called him an a-hole to his face that would be directly.
in other news i went to http://www.smccalltoyota.com/ContactUs.aspx left a lil message for Yancy and reffered him to this thread lol
Anyone catch the story about Bill Heard Chevrolet on channel 2 today? People buying cars, but the dealership telling the bank they were leasing them. That's something to boycott a dealership over.
Don't know why people get so worked up about buying a car to be honest. If you go somewhere that isn't working for you, its no big deal, just go somewhere else.
My problem is their attitude. If you bothered to read carefully, I said that I have no problem if they really can make sticker and tell me that professionally, with common courtesy. Yancy came out like an ass, tried to lord over us, talked down to us, etc. If he wanted me to get out of his dealership, he could have done so without being an a-hole. It's called professionalism. You don't know crap about me or my wife, and obviously don't know how to buy a car. The dealer's cost information is quite public, and any educated buyer knows how to negotiate based on it. Indeed, Edmunds has data on what folks in your zip code are paying for a particular car. Unless you're an employee there, I see no reason why you'd have a problem with what I'm saying here.
I've already sent in a complaint to the owner of Sterling McCall and reported this to Toyota directly. there's 2 things that are important to all dealerships: volume of sales, and "satisfaction ratings". toyota conducts tons of surveys on satisfaction ratings. If your dealership suffers from bad ratings, toyota won't be so generous on car allocations or cost, etc.
And, look what's going on just a few miles down the road from Sterling McCall at Bill Heard Chevrolet...... http://www.click2houston.com/news/14585531/detail.html
It's funny that you mention that I have no idea how to buy a car. I have no affiliation with Sterling McCall, but I have several years of experience working as a vendor to the auto industry. I have gone over many a dealer's financial statements. You saying that the Dealer's cost information is quite public is ignorant. The dealer's cost isn't just what he paid for the vehicle from the manufacturer. He also has to maintain a multi-million dollar facility. He also has to advertise and pay property taxes. He has a payroll obligation. He has employee benefits to take care of. All of these things affect his profit on each vehicle. The implication that you can negotiate a dealer down to a couple hundred in profit, and convince the dealer "Hey, at least you are making some profit" is not well thought out. For you to understand the dealer's true profit, you would have to take many other costs into consideration.
