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The Rockets' MVP: McGrady by far

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by EssTooKayTD, Nov 19, 2007.

  1. EssTooKayTD

    EssTooKayTD Member

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    I don't want arguments, I want discussion.

    Many times it's said, Yao is the key to this team winning a championship one day.

    I just can't agree with this. I can say he's ONE of the keys, not THE key.

    Can the team win games with Yao leading it? Of course, but without sharpshooters around him, we'll lose more often than not. I do, however, think we do have to have Yao. Hence, he is ONE of the keys. Tracy being the other.

    This team with Yao AND Tracy is a formidable team any night. With just Tracy, we are a good team. Without Tracy our record shows we are a very mediocre to bad team.

    Yao is an outstanding player with MVP-like numbers, but plain and simple, this team will live and die with McGrady.
     
  2. yuantian

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    can shaq win any championship without Kobe or Wade? i don't think so. say, if you put dominate shaq with this rocket team without tmac. they won't win ****. especially now that the league is moving to smaller/faster style. big guys just aren't going to rule the court anymore. midgets have the ball in their hands all the time, they shoot when they want. and other midgets hug yao ming, like treehuggers, all game long. what do you expect?

    of course, tmac is the key to win anything. take out yao, this team won't win any championship. take out tmac, this team will struggle to make to playoffs.
     
  3. McGradySNKT

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    That should never be. No NBA team should rely on one guy that much.

    That's the reason this team isn't a championship caliber squad.

    I agree with you though, Yao is an important key, but not the most important. Too many variables.
     
  4. blastaway

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    I would agree with you that Tracy is this teams MVP. And as you said, Yao is a necessary component for a championship team. But Yao can not be an MVP until or when he becomes a stronger dominant player that can beat double teams against him without high turnovers! Yao is not a cluth player right now because it is too easy to take him out of the game with fronting and double teams. The same can be somewhat said about Tmac, but he is obviously a much better passer than Yao, so that makes him our most valuable player. Yao doesn't get the "clutch" rebound for us because although he is 7'6" tall, he is TOO SLOW getting off the ground or to the rebound. And many times if he does get it, the other teams smaller players are TOO successful at striping him of the ball afterwards in clutch time.

    That being said, I still love Yao on our team and want him to continue to improve and become the dominant player that he can be. If he ever gets that mean streak, he could easily become our most valuable player and guarantee us a championship! My 2 cents.
     
  5. mms

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    Nicely put!


     
  6. Tom Bombadillo

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    Big men win championships

    with the exception of Michael
     
  7. A00man

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    QFMFT. Yet a lot of people here will disagree. The record without Tracy speaks for itself. Yao is a superstar, but he needs Tracy to win. Tracy gets this team going just like Nash does in Pheonix. You just can't win without him.

    Yao and Tracy aren't 1A and 1B in terms of importance. Tracy is 1, and Yao is 2. It's been proven over the years. Yao can't "impose his will" to a game like Tracy can.
     
  8. rhino17

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    tmac is easily the mvp, anyone who says otherwise doesnt watch the rockets play
     
  9. peter1984

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    TM can control the ball, but YAO not.When Tracy is out, Yao has a really tough time getting himself easy shots.
     
  10. abc2007

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    When Rockets faced tough schdule and Tmac was injured, I knew this would come. ;)
     
  11. MB20

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    I don“t agree.
    The key to a championship is a balanced (and healthy)TEAM, not individuals. With all the players steping up when it matters. And I mean stars, role players, bench, coaching staff...everybody.
    A little luck also. :)
     
  12. durvasa

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    With Yao, there are ways to defend against him and shut him down. He can't "carry" a team by himself in my view. Other guys need to be able to create shots and make baskets. That's not a knock on Yao; the way the league is now the game favors perimeters players who can create off the dribble. Of course, Yao can impact the game more in other ways by rebounding and defending the basket.

    With McGrady, when he's focused and aggressive, I really think that there's no way for defenses to stop him. He's more in control of what he does on the offensive end than Yao. With that comes greater responsibility as well.

    I don't want to say one is more valuable than the other overall. But offensively, I do think McGrady is more important.
     
  13. Mr. Clutch

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    McGrady by a little.
     
  14. Mad-Mac

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    There is an important difference in relying in a person's numbers and his presence.

    McGrady's presence on the court changes the game. He demands attention so that even when he is cold he makes the defense that much softer for the rest of the team.

    This little stretch was a bad judge of the team without T-Mac. Bonzi seemed fatigued and Batt's shot still isn't falling with the usual regularity.

    Yao's aggressiveness seems to come and go. I'm sure "You can't F'ing stop me!" Yao is on the way, I just hope he shows up sooner.
     
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    Personally I think the team MVP has to be shared by Yao and TMAC, you can't simply say one person is more important than the other because the truth is the rockets simply won't get anywhere without both.

    Yao is the consistent force that will score regularly and effectively while TMAC adds the flashy stuff that keeps teams on their feet. Without TMAC teams simply double Yao everytime, and the same thing when Yao is out of the game.
     
  16. arif1127

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    who cares, everyone knows they are both integral to this teams success, but the new big thing is how productive luis scola is, he can be a consistent option for the team. as long as scola shoots consistently, tracy and yao will have the third option that they've been looking for.
    if luis hits his 15 footer consistently, teams will start playing him straight up and that will allow yao more room to operate.
     
  17. rofflesaurus

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    Yao could develop a 3 point hookshot, he'd still be nowhere near as good as Shaq. A healthy Shaq surrounded by decent players is a GOOD team. A "dominant" Yao with decent players is a mediocre team. I agree, this team lives and dies with T-Mac, and Yao is just a key component.
     
  18. abc2007

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    I remember someone asked Phil before about who he wanted to bring to play in finals if he only can choose one from MJ and Shaq. Phil said MJ because Shaq needs someone to pass ball to him. :D
     
  19. cshen

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    Financially, Yao is the MVP.
     
  20. TeamUSA

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    TMAC for M.F.P

    Most FRAGILE Player.
     

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