Other than shooting I was very impressed with Rafer Francis: 3-11, 8 points, 2 assists, 0 turnovers, 1 steal, 1 rebound Alston: 3-8, 7 points, 4 assists, 0 turnovers, 1 steal, 3 rebounds
You left out that +/- stat there guy. Rafer -14 James -14 Hayes -6 Battier -4 Yao -13 Scola -9 Head +3 Francis +4 Wells -6 Snyder +4 Brooks +5 so the only guys with positive +/- stats were Francis, Snyder and Brooks. We deserved to lose this one.
did no one watch AB play defense? i tried, but i didn't see him play any. he isn't ready for more than spot time, he can score but he'll give up as many as he scores. steve was ok, but you can't expect much more when he hasn't played in 3 weeks. rafer was fine, but he shot another freakin tear drop, i hate the damn tear drop more than anything in this world.....
sat·ire [sat-ahyuhr] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun 1. the use of irony, sarcasm, ridicule, or the like, in exposing, denouncing, or deriding vice, folly, etc. 2. a literary composition, in verse or prose, in which human folly and vice are held up to scorn, derision, or ridicule. 3. a literary genre comprising such compositions. i was kidding. let's slow down and let rick run the team. snyder, steve and aaron all showed potential but i like the people that play. i think brooks and snyder have potential and steve could have something in the tank, but NOW i like the guards we play. tracy is hurt. next time he is hurt maybe more brooks and snyder. let's hope to the rockets god (hakeem) that that doesnt happen again sorry for the satire ill avoid joking in the future
Rafer shooting at a higher percentage than Steve Francis? What's the world coming to? Steve Francis missed a lot of shots but is expected. It is his first game of the season. As of now I still like Rafer starting with MJ off the bench. If Rafer plays really bad during the game, replace him with Steve. I would also like to see AB but that will only happen if we blow out a team or we get blown out...
Why did Francis get a +4? He shot at a worse percentage than Rafer, less assist and rebounds, same turnover (0) as Rafer, and same amount of steals...
He was +6 in the 2nd quarter. He came in at a time that most of the Suns 2nd team was in. Piatkowski was the only Sun with a - for the +- in the first half. He played well, but really it was a wash with him and Rafer. And intangibles from Steve brought his score up. He played hard, controlled himself, and didnt turn the ball over. Rafer is always like that, but for Francis its a negative that did not come out in extended minutes. So a + for him.
The +/- stat looks at the point differential when players are both in and out of the game. So Francis has a net positive effect on the game of +4 overall. It's an indicator of how the player affects the teams play in scoring and defense.
AB is the future. I can already picture him getting major minutes for us next season. This season is more like a learning year for him. He will most likely ride the bench like most late round rookies and get garbage time minutes. Unlike V-Span, he will continue to work on his game and stay strong. The kid could use more strength so bigger PGs don't abuse him.
Aaron Brooks will have significant minutes by seasons end. He's the Monta Ellis of the Houston Rockets
Was wondering the same... I liked what I saw from AB yesterday, but defense!?! Not one of them. Maybe it was Nash blowing the lay-ups that shook it from people's memory, but he really struggled. That said, I did like the confidence of the kid on offense. The three point shot looked great and he even gave Barbosa trouble off the drive.
Actually, the +/- seems completely useless. Say, if Kevin Garnett was still in Minnesota, they would lose a lot. And lose big, so KG's +/- would be atrocious. Would that mean that he hurts his team? No. This 'stat' is too dependent on the quality of your teammates. Also it doesn't factor in a players individual performance, so if a player (Rafer comes to mind) shoots 1 for 10 he can have the same +/- as Yao/T-Mac who have shot 10/15. While in reality he may be holding his team back from being up even more.
+/- for individuals in a single game isn't particularly useful, I agree. But it could have its uses. For instance, suppose you have a player who is, say, +15 in a game, and the team is -10 without him. It's hard to argue in that case that the player was a liability for in that game. Coaches tend to focus on how combinations perform together as a unit, rather than individual players. That's why I think it's more useful to look at and evaluate +/- for combinations in a game rather than individual players.
Hahah this is great! We were actually talking about this at the Clutchfans basketball this Saturday, saying about how after every loss we're all gonna start a variety of "it's time" thread dedicated for all of our players.
It is still a valuable piece of information to put together with the rest of it. Just for kicks, I looked at the Miami Heat vs Boston Celtics and Garnett only had a +4 for the game. The final score was Heat 91 Celtics 92. The game where the Rockets played the Suns, everyone on the Suns team had positive +/- numbers. Nash was +16, Barbosa +10, Marion +12, Hill +3, Stoudamire +5 and Diaw +12. Why was Stoudamire only at +5 when he scored 21 pts and had 13 rebounds? Probably because he let his man get past him a bunch of times and he had 7 turnovers which led to the Rockets scoring points. He also had 5 fouls which indirectly led to the Rockets scoring points off his fouls.
