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Torres/Cato Hurt? Maybe Our Trainer Should Get the Boot

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Jeff, Dec 9, 2001.

  1. Jeff

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    Ok, here's our list of injuries...

    Out:

    Mo Taylor - torn achilles tendon (out for season)
    Jason Collier - shin splints
    Steve Francis - plantar fascitis
    Glen Rice - patellar tendonitis

    Possibly out:

    Kelvin Cato - sprained (broken?) wrist

    Hurt but playing:

    Cuttino Mobley - ankle sprain
    Oscar Torres - patellar tendonitis

    What the hell is going on??? :eek:
     
  2. Legendary21

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    They must have hired that same guy Golden state had last year.
    You know, that guy who started that competition, the ultimate fighting thing. :eek:
     
  3. TroyBaros

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    As I stated earlier Jeff last night Cato made the comment of a burning sensation in his wrist which is not good. This injury bug reminds me of the curse the New Jersey Nets had A year or two ago.

    When he went down the Mic's were in full force thats where I heard him say that on NBA league pass.

    X-rays will prove what type today should be announced shortly.
    People suggest we trade I do not agree This happens to every team just nobody knows when or why.

    I agree a player should condition himself during the offseason but some of these players play way too many summer league games or benefit games or Streetball games which consist of leagues. And come regular season quite a few of them are already out of gas or on the borderline of substaining an injury.

    We do not trade nor do we fire Rudy Using him as a scape goat like the Blazers did Dunleavy This is just reality people
    Basically our main starters are all injured.
    Francis-Out
    Rice-Out
    Mo Taylor-Out
    Cato-Out
    Cat-Not out but I see it coming soon.

    Our bench is mainly consisted of Spark plugs but the spark just is not their and I think its because Mentally without Francis nobody makes plays for them. Everyone is worried Francis will leave I disagree Francis is not going anywhere he knows what is going on and He knows with the team he has he can excel and make the playoffs but the injury bug has just bitten us this year.

    I will still attend the games and cheer for my team regardless who is out their on the floor because I know we will bounce back from this. But firing Rudy is not the answer.
    Their I have Vented;)


    One other note I would not doubt for a minute Francis being buds with Nick we do not see something surface of this.
     
  4. outlaw

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    Maybe this is like the Red Sox curse for trading Babe Ruth?
     
  5. Rocket Fan

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    good thing these guys dont play football.. they wouldn't last a down
     
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    Speaking from experience here (as a fan, anyway) ... I don't think the trainer's at fault. The team doctor(s), maybe -- but it would take a case-by-case analysis to make that decision.

    One reason that you get injury "plagues" is when the first player or two goes down, the others wind up playing more minutes than they should, or playing a higher-risk brand of basketball (say, driving into the paint more) in hopes of making something happen.

    For the Warriors last year, there was a apparent problem with the team surgeon, given two cases where arthroscopies (on Dampier's knee and Chris Mills' ankles) essentially had to be re-done by a different doctor -- and they've been fine since. Danny Fortson's foot was the same situation, except that it was the Boston Celtics' team doctor who screwed up the first surgery (literally -- he put a screw in Fortson's foot, but it was too small and a bigger screw had to be inserted last year).

    Larry Hughes got hurt (repeatedly) because he was trying to do too much and getting knocked to the floor too often. As the PG now, he's playing against smaller opponents and getting banged around less. Chris Porter and Vonteego Cummings also got hurt trying to make mid-air plays in traffic around the rim.

    Judging the Rockets from a distance, here's what I see:

    Taylor -- Maybe you could blame the doctors for not seeing the risk to his Achilles, given that he had pain there at the end of last season. This has been hashed out on this BBS at length, I think, and I don't know enough to second-guess anyone's opinion.

    Rice -- He's aging and has had repeated injury problems in recent years. For him to get hurt again is no surprise.

    Cato -- He's young, but again this is a guy who seems to get hurt every year. At some point you have to wonder whether his body is simply unable to withstand the punishment of playing in the NBA. (Conditioning may be a factor here.)

    Collier -- May be carrying too much weight for his legs to handle the pounding.

    Francis -- Perhaps the strain of having to do so much over so many minutes. Having worked for Reebok for awhile several years ago, it pains me to think their shoes may be to blame. :(

    Name-dropping alert ... if anyone has seen the occasional NBC hoops broadcasts where Paul Sunderland did play-by-play, he worked in the Reebok office in L.A at the same time I did. :eek:

    Torres -- Maybe another case of someone playing more games/minutes than he's used to, and perhaps not in "NBA shape."

    Mobley -- At risk of overwork due to everyone else being hurt (and playing too much in the summer, per Cato).
     
  8. Hottoddie

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    I'm surprised no ones mentioned the floor yet. The floor was replaced after the flood. Maybe, that's the problem. With the exception of Taylor & Cato's injuries, all the others could've been caused by the floor having too much bounce or being too hard. The type of surface can make a huge difference, like the difference between running on astro turf & natural grass. Just food for thought.
     
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    I doubt its the surface, unless they brought in the Celts old court.
     
  10. Hottoddie

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    How can you doubt that it's the surface without first checking it? Even if the floor was manufactured properly, it still could've been installed improperly. If I remember correctly, this is a loaner floor that was originally made for another team. I don't know if it was actually installed previously.

    As for the installation, I'm sure they don't just lay it down on the concrete foundation. My guess is that it's elevated & supported underneath, after all there's a hockey rink underneath it.

    With all these leg injuries occurring this year, that's the one common denominator. But, I could be barking up the wrong tree.
     
  11. Live

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    Worrell asked Murphy what he thought was the cause for so many leg and foot problems this year (it's not just isolated to the Rocks, it's been league-wide for the past few seasons). Murphy said that basically it's the shoes, that they are built to be so light that they are also too thin and don't give enough support to the arch.

    Granted, we all know that Murphy isn't a podiatrist or anything, but it's an interesting theory nonetheless.
     
  12. Old School

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    Didn't Francis hurt his foot on the road?


    Old School
     
  13. Sane

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    Oh my god, this bug is catching on to the fans too.

    I was playing yesterday, and guess what? I'm out 4 weeks with the SAME EXACT injury Glen Rice has.


    Isn't that weird?


    On a side note. I've put on some extra weight recently, not playing for a while, so my doctor says that the extra weight on my knees is what caused the problem. Rice put on some extra weight too, so I'm guessing his diagnosis is the same as mine?


    Be careful guys, don't let the Rockets injury bug bite. lol


    Mo Taylor's injury was a plain and simple injury. He came down on it hard. Nothing to do with trainers.
     
  14. Wakko67

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    If it is the shoes, why isn't this happening to anyone else in the league?
     
  15. hexum24

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    I said that last year and you jumped all over me Jeff!
     
  16. TroyBaros

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    shoes are a good theory
    Reeboks do suck and terrible when it comes to support and stability. I know Francis wants out of his reebok contract...

    Air Francis sounds much better:D


    As far as the floor is it not ironic the comets were on a roll then all of a sudden after the flood and the new floor was put in they started tanking it....

    Could be the floor I really do think that a basketball arena should be for Basketball and Not hockey or shared each should have their own arena.

    Anyone notice that this floor is much lighter than the last one and the compaq logo is crooked....:confused:
     

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