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Rafer Being Shopped?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rockets fan, Nov 5, 2007.

  1. Seven

    Seven Member

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    I know he did. I was counting. James got smoked by Terry and Luther got smoked by Howard.
     
  2. Plowman

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    I'm talking about coming in much earlier initially in a game like this.Terry has a history of lighting us up.What that dude needs is physical play and to have to work on both ends.Don't let him get off.Regardless of how James is most nights with his offense he always brings the D.I really think he spent too many minutes on the bench tonight....esp at those crucial moments when we needed him.Terry was in the zone later.No we needed an aggressive,athletic guy in Terry's face and making him try to keep up with him at the other end...from the bell.


    But again these are still like preseason games for us so...You know.
     
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  3. YallMean

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    why are there so many weird thread after one tough loss tonight?
     
  4. Rockets4279

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    I agree, would you do this trade.

    Battier+Alston+Head or Scola or Hayes. pick one.
    Francis cant be moved untill Dec 15th.

    For

    Lamar Odom ??

    It seems Adelman always liked great passers and Odom is the closest thing on that level of Chris Webber. Odom is the ultimate team player very unselfish. It would seem having Yao dominate a team like Dallas its going to happen in the post and not up high. This is what Odom would do instead Right??
    It would seem that this move keeps our current bench a side and averaging what 30 a night?? Yao needs about 30 a night and thats not going to happen in the High-post. McGrady is a given 30+. On paper you have to match Dallas bench for bench. Odom would be just as dangerous as Yao if we go small ball and play Odom in the high-post. Either way Odom is that piece that can be converted from a SF to a F/C if needed.




    Odom would be a rich mans Scola and see plenty of minutes in the High-post with Yao down low.
     
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    I know but James is the closer but also the bench player.
     
  7. Boomzilla

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    I agree with that, Steve should get in shape and show that he can still kick some ass.
     
  8. krosfyah

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    We had a chance to win this game until Mike James had two consecutive turnovers late in the 4th quarter. After that, game over. That wasn't Rafer's fault ...that was all Mike James.

    Like others said, I don't blame Rafer/Mike for Terry blasting away jumpers. Normal defense you allow the jumpers as opposed to letting him drive the lane.
     
  9. Rockets4279

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    How about all the great free throws lolz. Im not blaming Rafer he had his fair share of mistakes lately, James has really been playing well for us.
     
  10. Da Wink

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    I've got a feelin that Morey is waiting for the right move to happen..bibby is still injured for the Kings...maybe we could deal some package to them... If we lose again tomorrow, we're in a panic mode for sure..
     
  11. Rockets4279

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    Yea because of our schedule. Cant trade for injured players because they would fail the physical. Could Bibby really be a answer? Over Rafer hell yea bring him on and keep James on the bench. Bibby is a floor general who knows the system. If not mistaken, the GM for the Kings said he would never trade a player to Adelman. But who knows they might, i know Artest and Bibby dont get along so one of the 2 could be out or both if they decide to tank it.
     
  12. hooroo

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    I've been eyeing over the NBA rosters. There's no obvious reason why another team would give up a better player for any combination of Alston, Head, Francis, or Snyder. Can the Rockets even get anything worthwhile back if they traded Francis or Snyder?

    IMO a trade involving any of the above would result in diminished returns... Unless they give up Battier to try and upgrade the "Big Three".

    http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/cs-071104smith,1,2705663.column?
    http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/beaconnews/sports/635409,2_2_AU05_BULLS_S1.article
    The Kobe trade rumors could be playing a major part in the Bull's slow start. If Dumars reaction in the first article is true then maybe it's important enough to deal with?

    Skiles trades Gordon for Battier straight up.

    Pros for Bulls:
    *Deal's with Gordon contract extension, ie Battier locked in for 4 seasons at half of Gordon's asking price.
    *Free up salary for a max offer to Deng
    *End Kobe speculation.

    Cons for Bulls:
    *Gordon for Battier
     
  13. mlwoo

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    This thread title annoys me. I thought we stopped making the same thread over and over.

    I click on a link thinking I am going to get some real news about a Rafer trade rumor. All I get is another opinion exactly the same as 50% of the BBS.
     
  14. weslinder

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    Rafer defends the pick-and-roll better than Mike James. They both have their spots, but there's no way you put James in for defense.
     
  15. Franco7

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    Totally agree.
    Tired of playing tough teams without all our best players on the court.
     
  16. h-townfan

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    Are you people watching the games???? Rafer is doing what he is supposed to do which is distribute the ball and hit the open shot. What more do you want him to do? It was Mike James who committed the costly turnovers in the 4th quarter. As for Jason Terry he was scoring on everyone last night. Gimme a break!
     
  17. emjohn

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    Rafer hate won't end until he's gone and we discover that Mike James needs 3 games to give you 8 assists, and we return to Francis-era crying over shoot first versus pass first point guards.

    Can't wait.

    Evan
     
  18. rockets fan

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    Not really. Both played like crap. But MJ has had 3 good games prior, Rafer has none.
     
  19. Realjad

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    Rafer has a 52 win season under our belt where he played a major roll.. Mike James has the Raptors..

    Mike James is proven to be an awesome weapon coming off the bench, Rafer is proven to be a no-weapon off the bench but has as I've said in the past shown he can be a weapon early on in the game.. Thus why he should start
     
  20. rockets fan

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    And I agree with you all that tonight was not Rafer's fault. Why? Because we can expect him to give us nothing. He's average in the truest sense; you can expect anything from a slightly above average PG to torch him, and expect him to outplay a below average PG. So the real question is, what kind of team are we trying to build? Are we not going to see T. Parker, D. Williams, S. Nash, J. Terry, A. Iverson, C. Paul, and even Baron Davis in the playoffs?? The only team we can expect to see this guy do something against in the postseason is the Lakers, assuming they even make the playoffs and J. Farmer doesn't improve during the season. Otherwise expect the other PG's to have a huge series against us.
     

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