Amare Stoudemire missed the game due to bad knee -- again

If Yaozer doesn't respond to this, we need to ask Clutch to sticky this puppy too.


Yaozer is certainly not the only one, the obsession over rooting for Amare to fail is ridiculous. I mean the ROY award doesn't even matter. Francis won that, and look where he is. Jeeze, YOFs need to move on already.

 

When you have to have microfracture knee surgery at such a young age, you can almost guarantee that knee issues will dog you into retirement.

Simplifying things: anytime a player gets a scope, you can think of it as a zamboni smoothing rough ice. Whenever you do that, your layer of cartilage gets thinner - and it doesn't thicken back up. If you get an actual bald spot (bone on bone, fast track to arthritis), you'll get microfracture surgery to generate scar tissue that acts as faux cartilage. This is a band aid solution, and will not last as long as true cartilage. Also, if you have a bald spot in one area of your knee, chances are awfully good that the rest of the cartilage is on its way out as well.

Below-the-rim Jason Kidd is the only guy that's shown staying power post-microfracture, and it's hard to argue that he's any more than 80% of what he once was.

Evan

 

Joe Johnson was solid pre Nash and has been studly post Nash.

 

Joe Johnson was always good and could always create his own offense, please don't compare him to Amare. If anything, playing with Nash has held him back to a certain extent because Nash dominates the ball, and Johnson is the type of player that is more productive with more touches. Playing with Nash really benefited players like Amare, Raja Bell, AND Shawn Marion (despite his Pre-Nash numbers) who wasn't even close to a superstar player that most of the media is praising him as Pre-Nash.

 

have you never watched Barbosa and Johnson play? those guys don't need Nash to create their own shot or go around their defenders.

 

And the YOHs too. Anyone is blind if he/she can't see them.

 

You're missing the entire point. The fact that he had his knee scoped AGAIN is an issue. Because you seem to forget that he had a knee scope AFTER having microfracture surgery.

 

Kenyon Martin isn't a good indicator because he sat out a year with an injury. Joe Johnson actually played better in Atlanta then he did in Phoenix. He just didn't have a good team around him, and he suffered an injury.

 

No sympathy from me. Always hated Amare and it would please me if he never played another game in the NBA.

 

Amare is a good guy.
































For some housework...

 

not just roy. amare has managed to be arguably more accopmplished despite the injury, like beating yao to the first team nba center last year. if he's truely where francis is now, i don't think yofs will care.

 

The only reason Amare was on first team all NBA last year was because he played 82 games and Yao played 48. Yao outperformed him in every way. Hell even with the huge game disparity Yao still came within 15 points of beating Stoudemire.

The dude has everything spoonfed to him by Steve Nash, throws down a few dunks, and people think he's so amazing. It's sickening.

 

You saying that about JJ means you probably rarely saw him play while on the Suns and haven't seen him with the Hawks either.

 

I basically agree with you but, in fairness to Kenyon Martin, he did have to undergo microfracture surgery too. That has played a pretty large role in his decline. Microfracture surgery is a killer. Not many players ever fully recover from it. Jason Kidd is probably the only guy I can think of off of the top of my head who really fully recovered from it. Everybody else I've ever heard of to undergo microfracture surgery has lost at least a little something.

 

I had just brought up Jason Kidd responding to another post before I saw yours.

I agree that it's hard to argue that he's any more than 80% of what he once was, however, I think you could also attribute that decline to his age. Every player declines with age. That being the case, I consider him the only case of a full recovery post-microfracture. You may be right that it's the microfracture that's responsible for his decline, but it could just as easily be that he's just at that age. It's impossible to say for certain.

 

But YOHs will care. I will tell you why if you can't figure it out yourself.

 

Amare is not going to be very productive early in the season. He's played alot of games last season and had surgery again. If he develops that jumper, maybe he wouldn't have to dunk as much. Sure dunking makes better FG, but it also busts out your knees if you do it too much.

 

What? The last time I checked Francis wasn't a rookie in 2003. What are you talking about?