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Iraqi dam 'at risk of collapse'

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  1. Cohen

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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7069109.stm

    Iraqi dam 'at risk of collapse'

    Mosul Dam has been a problem for engineers since it was built in 1984
    The largest dam in Iraq is at risk of an imminent collapse that could unleash a 20m (65ft) wave of water on Mosul, a city of 1.7m people, the US has warned.
    In May, the US told Iraqi authorities to make Mosul Dam a national priority, as a catastrophic failure would result in a "significant loss of life".

    However, a $27m (£13m) reconstruction project to help shore up the dam has made little or no progress.

    Iraq says it is reducing the risk and insists there is no cause for alarm.

    However, a US watchdog said reconstruction of the dam had been plagued by mismanagement and potential fraud.

    In a report published on Tuesday, the Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction (SIGIR) said US-funded "short-term solutions" had yet to significantly solve the dam's problems.

    SIGIR found multiple failures in several of the 21 contracts awarded to repair the dam.

    Among the faults were faulty construction and delivery of improper parts, as well as projects which were not completed despite full payments having been made.

    'Fundamentally flawed'

    The dam has been a problem for Iraqi engineers since it was constructed in 1984.

    It was built on water-soluble gypsum, which caused seepage within months of its completion and led investigators to describe the site as "fundamentally flawed".

    In September 2006, the US Army Corps of Engineers determined that the dam, 45 miles upstream of Mosul on the River Tigris, presented an unacceptable risk.

    "In terms of internal erosion potential of the foundation, Mosul Dam is the most dangerous dam in the world," the corps warned, according to the SIGIR report. "If a small problem [at] Mosul Dam occurs, failure is likely."

    A catastrophic failure of the Mosul Dam would result in flooding along the Tigris River all the way to Baghdad

    US letter to Iraqi government

    The corps later told US commanders to move their equipment away from the Tigris flood plain near Mosul because of the dam's instability.

    The top US military commander in Iraq, Gen David Petraeus, and US ambassador Ryan Crocker then wrote to Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Maliki urging him to make fixing the dam a "national priority".


    "A catastrophic failure of the Mosul Dam would result in flooding along the Tigris River all the way to Baghdad" the letter on 3 May warned.

    "Assuming a worst-case scenario, an instantaneous failure of Mosul Dam filled to its maximum operating level could result in a flood wave 20m deep at the city of Mosul, which would result in a significant loss of life and property."

    If that were to happen some have predicted that as many as 500,000 people could be killed.

    Alarm bells

    Iraqi authorities, however, say they are taking steps to reduce the risk and they do not believe there is cause for alarm.

    The Iraqi Minister for Water Resources, Jamal Rashid, told the BBC that a number of steps were being taken to tackle the problem, including a reduction in water levels in the reservoir and a round-the-clock operation to pump grouting into the dam's foundations.

    Work would also begin next year on a longer-term plan to make the foundations safe by encasing them in a concrete curtain, he added.

    The BBC's Jim Muir in Baghdad says the debate over the dam has gone on largely behind the scenes so as not to cause public panic or attract the interest of insurgents.
     
  2. MR. MEOWGI

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    Daaaaaaaaam.
     
  3. IROC it

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    ...so we're choosing to make it a target now... ensuring it gets attacked and collapses before W gets out of office... just to add to the worldwide, US-led hatred for the POTUS.
     
  4. KingCheetah

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    How long before insurgents/ al-Queda help this dam come down?
     
  5. RKREBORN

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    Problem solved?
     
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    You've nailed it !
     
  7. Cohen

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    If you feel the Iraqi leadership is not reacting with urgency, what do you do? If the damn collapses, the US will be blamed since Iraq is our responsibility until we're out of there.

    I would expect that all approaches to the damn are being defended; but now that it's public that we've warned them and funded the repairs... a collapse belongs to Iraqi leadership.

    Doesn't help the 500,000 at risk though, unless it lights a fire under the Iraqi politicians.
     
  8. Carl Herrera

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    Doubt the insurgents will attack it. If the dam has a significant risk of collapsing, blowing it up now only lets the government off the hook and make people hate the insurgents.
     
  9. MadMax

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    we'll just send Brownie in. he's doin' a heckuva job.
     
  10. danny317

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    i agree but the US and iraqi goverment will still catch some flak.

    the damn shouldnt have been built there bc the bedrock wasnt ideal for a damn. but i doubt sadaam will catch any flak bc hes dead.
     
  11. KingCheetah

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    Halliburton should have built it right the first time.
     
  12. Buck Turgidson

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    Awesome.
     
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    They built a dam on a water-soluble mineral. Smart.
     
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    blowing up markets filled with women and children hasnt made people hate them?
     
  15. tinman

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    you mean Iraq built the dam.
     
  16. Carl Herrera

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    What I meant is make more people hate them. I'm sure plenty of people already hate the insurgents. Then again, there are some who probably care about the women and children as far as they are not from the same religous sect as they are.

    Speaking of which...What's the ethnic and religous makeup of Mosul? Kurdish? Arab? Shiite? Sunni?
     
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    someone jump in and correct me if im wrong...


    mosul?

    kurds are their own ethnic group. after ww1 (maybe ww2?) their territory got divied out to turkey, iraq, iran, and syria.

    arabs make up the majority of the middle east (minus iran = persians)

    shiite and sunni are not ethnicities. their like denominations of islam. kinda like how christianity has protestants and catholics.
     
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    yes, sunni and shia(or shiite) are sects. and, you cant not think that all of the constant bombing didnt have an effect on the integrity of the dam
     
  19. lpbman

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    They built a dam on freakin drywall... Wow.
     
  20. YallMean

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    exit strategy? Cant stay there to fix everything for them and have them hate on us. See this is why you miss Saddam. He could be an easy target to blame everything on. Those things have to be solved within, and that's to the best interest of US. Instead, we went in, bombed shiat out of it, got rid of Saddam, civil war, china town ... If there is a long term goal to all of these, how long do we need to wait to see?
     

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