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Job Of A Lifetime Pissed Away?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Almu, Oct 27, 2007.

  1. DonkeyMagic

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    it is possible that it could bring down the house of cards. Having a ton of great qualities doesnt mean squat if there is a fairly significant flaw. for ex, you may be smart, work hard, etc...but you cant be trusted (hypothetically of course :) )

    or for a basketball example, stromile swift. Tall, long, athletic as heck, has some good moves...but is dumb as a brick.

    you're only as strong as your weakest link, or whatever that saying is
     
  2. tulexan

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    Yes it can bring everything down. Trust is so important in the workplace, especially in executive positions. This is why you never lie on a resume or in an interview. If you had all of the qualifications, references, etc., you should had no reason to lie about being currently employed. That, in all likelihood was not a dealbreaker, but continuting to lie about being currently employed can (and looks like) a dealbreaker.
     
  3. RIET

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    That's what he told you. It could be an excuse.
     
  4. Refman

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    And I could retire right now if I had a dime for every time I told somebody that "I have to consult my partner" regarding a decision when I knew right then, right there that I had my mind made up. I did consult my partner, and lo and behold, he confirmed my previous decision.

    What I am telling you is that it is just easier to blame the bad decision on a nameless, faceless third party.

    I am not sure that a court would allow you damages for following the advice to submit an inaccurate resume. Had you gotten the job and it turned out to be a relevant misstatement, it could be construed as fraud.

    If I am handing over the management and finances of my $50M business to somebody...if I get the feeling I cannot 100% trust that person...you bet your life I would likely not hire them regardless of other qualifications.
     
  5. Almu

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    Yea...chalk up this to a horrible experience.

    Hopefully I can find work quick. First of the month and rent is due, gotta get this paper...

    But why would he leave me that voice mail saying they are preparing for my arrival if his initial call was to inquire about the "small discrepancy"?

    And he said to me like 3 times he wouldn't of cared and still doesn't care but that the discrepancy has to be brought up to his "investors"?

    Oh well. Its his business. But I also feel its his loss. I had already signed a contract for a 2 year commitment (pending the background check), and that included me working late nights and weekends. Maybe he will find someone to do that for him. Maybe not. But I can't see someone with a wife and two small daughters accepting that type of hour structure and to hire someone younger would be detrimental to his business due to lack of experience.

    Oh well. Monday at 9am will determine my fate with the dreaded phone call.
     
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    Don't worry you'll be fine, be grateful that you have your health and family, in then end that’s all that matters. Money will come and go….whatever happens, happens for a reason...
     
  7. CoolGuy

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    whats happend?
     
  8. Apollo Creed

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    Yeah, I also am curious about what happened.
     
  9. Behad

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    Hopefully he is at work and can't post right now...


    ...or he's incredibly drunk right now, trying to forget his mistake. :p
     
  10. Cohen

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    I'd be very concerned if I felt someone misled me.

    I doubt it's up to the investors; he sounds like a pansy. Could indicate passive aggressiveness; not a wonderful trait for a boss.

    Anyway, there are many other great jobs for great people. If he calls with a 'no', I would apologize again for the misunderstanding, that you fully understand his position, and wish him continued success and move on in my mind before even getting off the phone, which I would do promptly w/o being rude. Handling it maturely, professionally and w/o desperation in your heart is what may make him think twice. If you can word any sentence in a way that provides some new info w/o belaboring the point (so it doesn't seem as if you're trying to change his mind) it could help; if he does happen to change his mind he'll need something to hang his hat on.
     
  11. vlaurelio

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    I'll go a step further by saying the biggest mistake was leaving your job first.. find a job first, then when you are hired and tis final, give a two week notice to your current job..
     
  12. DaDakota

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    Almu,

    The resume bit shouldn't be a problem, but you lying about it would be, especially if you are going to be helping with their finances and they are planning on going public.

    They want to be SQUEEKY clean.

    Good luck, hopefully they liked you enough and understand your situation and give you the gig, but honestly, I would not be surprised if they went elsewhere.

    It probably depends on whether they have another qualified candidate in the wings.



    DD
     
  13. DonkeyMagic

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    exactly. Especially with a family? I understand being upset and wanting to move on, but dont cut off your nose to spite your face. Stick with the job, search elsewhere and when you KNOW something is going through thats when you quit...and not "effective immediately", unless the new job needs you immediately.
     
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    Almu, if it makes you feel any better I've heard of much worse deception than this.

    About four years ago I had a friend that interviewed for Stockamp Consulting while he was at UT business school. He attended UH his first two years and transferred to UT for his junior and senior year. He listed his overall GPA as an average of his UT and UH GPAs. You would think that was an honest mistatement till you found that his UT GPA was a 2.8 and his UH GPA was 3.7. After 3 rounds of interviews including an office visit and an offer they called and told him they would have to rethink their decision because of this discrepency. They finally got back to him and stuck with their offer. I just interviewed with them this semester and now they require transcripts in the first round of interviews.

    My friend is actually a career advisor as a side job and he told me that he wouldve not done that in retrospect. Point is, I think you'll get the job but never EVER put yourself in a position where you have to wonder if something you did or didn't do could have cost you a job (even if the employer does not outright confront you about it).
     
  15. DaDakota

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    I don't have any issue with embelishment on a resume.....but blatently lying is an issue with me.

    When we interview people if we find a blatent lie, we just move on to the next candidate.

    DD
     
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    Yes, you didn't only omit something, you actually actively lied to the guy several times, as Refman and others pointed out. In fact, you sort of misrepresented that in your opening posts in this thread.

    I would be concerned if I was the guy hiring you as well, especially if it is a finance position.

    Anyway, I wish you the best of luck, some good advice has been given in this thread. Let us know how everything went.
     
  17. tulexan

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    That is what I thought too. The original post made it sound like the only problem was that your resume said present instead of the end date. Then when you later said that you told him about using vacation time to interview and that you can be ready in a week, I think we found the root of the problem.
     
  18. DonkeyMagic

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    thats what i've noticed. At first, i was thinking "oh, an honest mistake", it never came up in the interview. Then he says that he was asked why he was leaving his job. And even goes further by later saying that he was taking "vacation time".

    i think he just lied to everyone here ;)
     
  19. Mulder

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    AND THEN???????
     
  20. rimrocker

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    So, quitting your job on the basis of principle?

    I'm sure the company you're interviewing is above board, but there seem to be a bunch of companies in the news where principles in a Finance guy might be a disqualifying attribute.
     

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